On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, Bob Hinden wrote:
> >17. Normative References
> >
> >There are two work-in-progress documents:
> >
> >   draft-jeong-dnsop-ipv6-dns-discovery-01.txt
> >   draft-ohta-preconfigured-dns-01.txt
> >
> >Can't we have these as normative references unless these are published
> >as a stable document (presumably an RFC) before the publication of
> >this document or at least synchronously?  Or is that actually the
> >plan?
> 
> I think the normative issue only applies if this document is to become a 
> BCP or Standard.  If it's just informational, these can be listed as work 
> in progress.  Input from the chairs and/or ADs here would be useful.

There are two "normative issues":

 1) a standards track document cannot refer normatively to an
informational/experimental document, or document with a lower maturity
than itself.  [this is not an issue here]

 2) no RFC will be published until all of its normative references (no
matter the category) have been published.  It can be approved, but
will then wait at the RFC editor queue.  Informative references are
listed as work in progress.  The justification here is that the
normative reference might change substantially before approval, and
the circumstances of the referral might be entirely different.

If reading draft-jeong-dnsop-ipv6-dns-discovery-01.txt and
draft-ohta-preconfigured-dns-01.txt is critical for understanding this
document (it might be!), they might in any case warrant being over at
normative references.  They can be moved to informative later as well
(even as far as the RFC editor) if it seems they won't move forward.

-- 
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Netcore Oy                    kingdom bleeds."
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