So are you saying the client will never expect to have downtime on their site? I also agree with Jamie, that you are trying to create something that is not needed to begin with.
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:48 AM, jack me <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > This requirement was asked by client where he have e-commerce website. He > got solution in form of load balancing from his hosting provider (as he > told). I told him this is not possible at coding side. > > Thanks to all. > > Regards, > Jack > > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Jamie Fraser <[email protected]>wrote: > >> That doesn't really work, as when you change from old->new, any users who >> are logged in will be logged out and lose their sessions. >> >> The main issue is that you probably don't *need* this kind of >> functionality. >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:30 AM, jack me <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi, thanks to all. >>> >>> I found a solution but possible at server end....... I don't know it will >>> be related to load balancing but when i found on net about about >>> server-farm approach for developing software >>> (i have to spent some nights on google to find the way :) -i dont know i >>> am going in right way ---...........I found another solution for this.. when >>> we want to update the website without down time then we will make a new >>> directory on server at any place. Like >>> if i want to update a website like www.websitename.com Then we need to >>> make another directory like wwwroot > directory say "New root of file". >>> after uploading all updated site here in this directory. We will change the >>> virtual directory path of website to "New root of file". >>> >>> Processor Devil > if I want to do it with ajax the how we can do this.. >>> May be a service when it do not get the response then it shows the loading >>> of page or loading message.. Are you talking about this............? >>> >>> Thanks again >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Processor Devil < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, it is possible... >>>> You can use ajax for this purpose, but you have to specify timeout not >>>> to interrupt the process.... I don't think this is quite good idea because >>>> if your Service is really down, you will find it much much later... But if >>>> you are not using service, but inner part of your aspx.cs or aspx.vb code, >>>> then it should be fine :) >>>> >>>> 2009/12/9 jack me <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> from all answers i understand this is impossible updation without down >>>>> time. One solution is we will have to use many servers. while updating we >>>>> update on one server(that server will be down for some time till updation >>>>> time). >>>>> >>>>> Means it will be at server level. In coding way it is not possible. ? >>>>> If we want at coding level . Is it possible in any way........ >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:58 PM, KeidrickP <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Oh, I definitely agree. >>>>>> I hope the OP is reading this.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Jamie Fraser >>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> That was kind of my point! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If your site is big enough to require DR facilities, you can use DR >>>>>>> to minimise (or negate) downtime. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If your site doesn't need DR facilities, what does a small amount of >>>>>>> offline time overnight matter? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 3:12 PM, KeidrickP <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jamie, >>>>>>>> I don't think the OP has a DR database in place, or they probably >>>>>>>> wouldn't be posting this question. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Jamie Fraser < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Or if you aren't using DB partitioning - upgrade your DR database, >>>>>>>>> bring that online, once its up, take your production system offline, >>>>>>>>> upgrade >>>>>>>>> that and then bring it online again. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> None of these are particularly difficult issues for large sites as >>>>>>>>> they use multiple servers (hundreds and thousands in the case of >>>>>>>>> Google) and >>>>>>>>> for a very small site with 1 app & 1 DB server, it isn't a problem >>>>>>>>> having a >>>>>>>>> few hours downtime overnight. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Jamie Fraser < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On any site which uses load balancing, you'll often use database >>>>>>>>>> partitioning too, so stick users to a particular web / db server >>>>>>>>>> combination >>>>>>>>>> and upgrade groups of servers at a time. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Vitaly Maslevskiy < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sounds good, but, typical situation. DB Schema changed, we have >>>>>>>>>>> to update dll's >>>>>>>>>>> in which order binaries/DBSchema have to be updated. If we change >>>>>>>>>>> schema first, >>>>>>>>>>> all apps is not 100% up. Only application updated first and >>>>>>>>>>> "down" >>>>>>>>>>> until first request >>>>>>>>>>> has valid state. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Or? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2009/12/8 Gunawan Hadikusumo <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>> > you need load balancing...... 2 or 3 more IIS server run >>>>>>>>>>> simultanously >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > so you could update those server one by one without distrupting >>>>>>>>>>> the current >>>>>>>>>>> > connected user. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:25 PM, jack me <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Is it possible to upload the dll or files without downtime of >>>>>>>>>>> website. >>>>>>>>>>> >> just for sake of example, if gmail upload some thing new in >>>>>>>>>>> the website like >>>>>>>>>>> >> chatting facility. After that extended the chat facility with >>>>>>>>>>> video. >>>>>>>>>>> >> According to me this is without the downtime of the gmail. in >>>>>>>>>>> same manner, >>>>>>>>>>> >> If i want to make any updation in my website without making >>>>>>>>>>> down the site >>>>>>>>>>> >> how we can achieve this in .net. >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>> >> Jack >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Keidrick Pettaway >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://kpettaway.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Keidrick Pettaway >>>>>> >>>>>> http://kpettaway.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- Keidrick Pettaway http://kpettaway.com
