We all enjoy these rigs, Bob.

If it was me, I'd try one part at a time and hook it up to a regulated supply 
and a counter.  You can then log the frequency every time you walk by and see, 
over time, if changing the part fixed the problem.  I'd start with just the PTO 
before replacing anything.  Log what the counter is telling you any time you 
happen to look over at it.  Don't destroy any parts in case you find you've 
made matters worse so you can return to the zero point.


Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

"I can't complain, but sometimes I still do."
- Joe Walsh

If the above message appears, it came from Steve's Son of Laptop!
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robert Fish 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Drakelist] T-4XC PTO chirps


  Garey, Eddy, Paul, Curt and Steve,
  Thanks for the quick replies guys. This is a great bunch on this list. I am 
convinced that it is the PTO. If I lightly tap on the PTO can with a pencil tip 
(and I mean very lightly) it causes the signal to jump around. Maybe just a 
cold solder joint.  I have a parts radio (T-4XC) with a PTO in it. I guess I'll 
haul it out and test it. If it's stable, I will swap it with the faulty one. 
Can I then rebuild (shotgun) the bad PTO with all new parts? or is there 
special parts in there that I have to be careful with? I probably have most of 
the stuff in stock (NPO caps, metal film resistors etc.). It would be handy to 
have a nice new spare because I also have a B-Line. Also,  A 5Mhz PTO is a nice 
thing to have around, homebrew QRP rigs etc.

  I have a HP signal generator, so I think I will try Paul's suggestion on the 
Lissajous display. Perhaps I can find the faulty component with some freeze 
spray and make this a quick repair. Maybe learn something in the process 
(heaven forbid).

  I wrote this e-mail in three sittings as real life keeps intervening. The 
bottom line is, thanks for all the help, I will let you know how I proceed and 
the results thereof.

  73,

  Bob  K6GGO




    On 2011-10-26, at 1:16 PM, Steve Wedge wrote:



      Removing the PTO - at least with the A's and B's - requires removal of 
the front panel.  This is a good time to clean it as well as the fiducial 
window.  Use only dish soap for the window or you'll take off the red line!



    Hi Guys,


    Well, I can not vouch for the "A" & "B" series, but in my T-4X transmitter 
that extensive a dis-aasembly is most assuredly NOT required...


    After removing the three tubes immediately behind the PTO can, the can 
itself is extricated by first dis-connecting the top grounding spring, & then 
lightly squeezing together the "side prongs" that hold the can in place, one 
prong at a time (this is by far the WORSE part of the operation, and the most 
time-consuming).


    The can is slipped off the assembly, rearward (where the 3 tubes were). 


    Next, with a pair of long needle-nose pliers, each brass spacer that you 
see at the front of the vertical PTO board is grasped (so the spacers won't 
fall & get lost), and a slotted screw driver is used to unscrew the 4 screws 
that go through them. The PTO board & coil assembly is now loose, save for the 
3 wires that are attached to the front vertical board: draw a simple sketch 
showing where these are connected so that you'll remember when you re-assemble 
everything, then touch each point on the board with a soldering iron to release 
each wire...


    The entire assembly is then slipped back off of the brass rod with the 
ferrite slugs on it.


    Absolutely no need to remove the front panel, no need for anything that 
complicated, or involved... 


    To re-assemble, simply reverse this procedure! Hi Hi


    ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ






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