One of the issues with the current software is the deletion of records. If the 
trust server has a record that needs to be deleted, then it sends a delete 
request out to all systems. The problem is that if you have a system that is 
offline for 3 months, then you must keep the delete records around  for at 
least that long. This means that you have to keep sending a really big and 
growing  delete list to all repeaters all the time.
It's the way many commercial directories work. If a copy of the directory is 
offline for over X days, that copy becomes non-functional and the rest of the 
system won't let it rejoin.

>From a more technical perspective, when an object is deleted, it isn't 
>deleted, it is marked as deleted and now called a tombstone. Tombstones are 
>sent to all other copies of the database to make sure that the deleted item 
>gets deleted. Tombstone are marked to eventually get deleted, at 30 or maybe 
>90 days. After the tombstone interval, any copy of the database that hasn't 
>synchronize in tombstone-interval-days cannot be resynchronized.

And just to be clear, when I say uninstall, I mean the gateway software, not 
the OS. This is done by following the process in the manual and then notifying 
the Trust Team.

Yes there are a number of gateways that do go offline and that is an existing 
issue.

Plus, the amount of work needed to uninstall, notify the trust team, and then 
reinstall, and notify the trust team is pretty insignificant.  Unregistering 
and notifying the users will take a LOT more time.

Ed WA4YIH

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
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Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] W7DIN Moving to Chino Valley, AZ





Ed,

I'm curious why you are recommending this? There are other gateways that
go offline for a period and come back - it seems like a lot of
unnecessary effort if he will return with the same callsign --

For the convenience of his "users", he probably should unregister them
and have them register on another gateway - but I don't see any purpose
to what you propose here.

Woodrick, Ed wrote:
>
>
> I'd suggest going through the uninstall process and get the Trust Team
> to then delete you.
>
> When you come back online, you can then reinstall.
>

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