OK - so the truth of the "European" Trust is that it comprises about 8 
repeaters mostly around the heavily populated area of Dortmund and one repeater 
in the US.

So, that excludes the other 26 countries that make up the European Union.

A few weeks ago, I was driving in that area.  I'd been chatting via one of the 
Dutch repeaters to a friend back in the UK, and crossed into Germany (I wanted 
to test my car on the unrestricted Auotbahn....)

I found a D-Star repeater, not realising that it was in this unconnected group. 
 I tried to call to my friend, and got an RPT? back.  Then I tried to link to 
one of the D-Plus reflectors - no go.

We simply cannot have disconnected islands like this - all it is going to do is 
to put off D-Star users who will moan like mad about the multiple networks, 
just as I do with Echolink, IRLP, eQSO, etc, etc.

Erik is 100% correct.

David - G4ULF

> > NO, I meant the European TRUST at dstareusers.eu is
> > running as a TRUST server exactly as k5tit does
> > at dstarusers.org or something.
> >
> > They have built a NEW TRUST server.

--- In [email protected], "Erik Finskas" <la...@...> wrote:
>
> ------- Original message -------
> > From: ham44865 <ham44...@...>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: 24.7.'09,  19:00
> >
> > NO, I meant the European TRUST at dstareusers.eu is
> > running as a TRUST server exactly as k5tit does
> > at dstarusers.org or something.
> >
> > They have built a NEW TRUST server.
> >
> > That is the point.
> >
> > Now others will build more, as every country should have one.
> >
> > That is the point.
> >
> > I dont care which repeater belongs to which trust at this point.
> >
> > We will also build another one in the US and another in Canada.
> >
> > We DO NOT care about routing from EU trust to US trust and back.
> > That is not the point I am trying to explain here
> 
> Who are WE in this aspect? Why do you want to create numerous parallel 
> networks unvisible ro each other? You then fail to understand the whole 
> concept of D-STAR callsign routing.
> 
> > The point is now we know how to create TRUST servers
> > for peoiple to enjoy and repeaters can belong to any
> > TRUST.   Is is not any more one ONLY. You see what I mean.
> >
> > And check this out, A dstar repeater can switch from one
> > TRUST to another TRUST in 5 seconds.  That is the
> > beauty of it.
> >
> > If one goes down, there is another and another and another ...
> 
> Why dont you all join your your forces and start designing a next 
> generation trust system which has multiple instances for redundancy but 
> still acts like one so everybody could use it and enjoy a global D-STAR 
> network..
> 
> Erik OH2LAK
>


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