Hey y'all.  I did it.

The USB cord is real simple:  4 wires, probably 22 gauge, a braided
shield on the outside. No "Litz" wire, no nothin'.  Simpler than an
ethernet cross over conversion.  Practically fell asleep doing it. 
Didn't quite make my 3 inch goal, but a 5 inch cord is much better than
a 6 feet cord!

The FW cable was much more complicated,  6 wires, with 2 twisted pairs
inside its own braided shielding, and a straight through pair (3 total).
 The whole thing is also shielded in braided wire.  This one was harder
to make neat-looking, but no brain surgery here either.

Tried everything, and all of them work, including a USB card reader with
intergral cord.  Saved 1/2 lb of cable weigh :-)
The cost of this particular lesson is remarkably low.

Tho



"Tho X. Bui" wrote:
> 
> Jerry Krinock wrote:
> >
> > on 02/01/01 21:57, Tho X. Bui at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I don't know what litz wires are, but I'll look it up.  If it's hard to
> > > solder, I'll try the various fluxes that I have in my arsenal.
> > I'm not sure what it is either, but it is very flexible, like cotton thread.
> > You'll know it if you try to solder it.
> >
> > > Will try it and let you folks know.  I'm not smart enough to give up :-)
> > I can tell you're going to have fun with this project!  If you are married,
> > do it when your wife is gone out with the girls.
> >
> > > Seriously though, if I could live with a bigger case, I'd be using a
> > > bigger laptop.
> >
> > How big are your splice "lumps" going to be?
> 
> Probably not at all, if I do a good job.
> 
> For the litz wire, I have a solder dip bath, which I use for stripping
> of magnet wires when I wind solenoids.  Even if the wires are
> individually coated, as some one said, it won't be too much of a
> problem.  I hope that I don't have to fire it up though--seems like over
> kill.  I have soldered a few audio cables with this type of wires. It
> seems that enough heat and the proper flux will solve this one.  You can
> burn off the insulation with an open flame (match).
> 
> Ref. the lump, you can pretty much eliminate it by off-setting the
> joints a few millimeters--an old trick for those of us who has done this
> for a few times. It's all in the workmanship.
> 
> Shielding, of course, is pretty simple, just some foil wrapping before
> the heat shrink tubing. I can add a ferrite noise suppressor if it
> improves the performance.
> 
> Will let y'all know.  It seems simpler than replacing the surface mount
> fuse on the Comet's I/O board,which I've done a couple of times.  At
> least the risk factor is much, much lower. My wife was looking over my
> shoulder when I was doing that one to make sure I do a good job.
> 
>  :-)
> 
> Tho
> 
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