Well Folks there is an easy way to end all this senseless stupid 
debate... Drop  ALL the awards programs.. No one and I mean no one would 
have to bitch about not getting a card back from this station or that 
station - no certificates to worry about ...

    We have done practically everything else to kill the hobby,,,

    Slowed the code down - to get more people into the hobby  - didn't 
work..
    Dropped the code - to get more people into the hobby - didn't work
    Eased up on the theory to get more people into the hobby - didn't work
    Some countries made the theory practically none existent - to get more 
people into the hobby - didn't work..
    Canada is working on dropping the theory altogether to get more people 
into the hobby - won't work.

    23 channel CB's just might make a come back..

    I get a lot of enjoyment from working DX and I take pride in being able 
to get the cards back from as many of those contacts as I possibly can.. Its 
part of the game and the people that are skilled at playing the game will 
get a large percentage of their cards answered.. Everything that we do in 
life is a challenge why should our hobby not have those hurdles to deal 
with..

    Yes - kill the Awards programs and that will solve the problem -- we can 
always tell everyone " Oh Yes I Worked That One ".. The old been there - 
done that - got the T-Shirt -- who is going to know any different..

    Sorry guys -- just got sick and tired of reading about what everyone 
wants to do - end result - driving another nail into the coffin of a once 
worthwhile hobby..

                                                                             
                                                                             
    Jim VE3CM - [EMAIL PROTECTED]


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kamar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Peter Dougherty'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Garth 
Hamilton'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 8:54 AM
Subject: RE: [Dxbase] Re: Dxbase PDF QSL's


>
> The DXCC 'officials' need to get with the times.  Log of the world is good
> step toward Electronic QSL confirmation (and that's all it is) However, I
> still don't have a nice card or a similar facsimile of the DX station's 
> QSL.
>
> In my opinion, an electronic transmitted QSL confirmation via a 
> 'protected'
> Adobe PDF or similar  type of document, which is then printed, should be
> qualified as confirmation as would be with a 'paper' card transmitted via
> the mail.  In the end we have a valid confirmation.
>
> Those folks worried about hams cheating, those that do, will continue to
> happen requardless of the transmission media.
>
> I'm personally tired of spending money, many times over, to obtain a 'new'
> confirmation with the results of only feeding money with out any results.
> I've been a Ham since 1963, and I've readily adapted to legal electronic
> transmissions.  Every email that I send at work becomes a legal document.
> All of my documents at work are now formatted in Adobe PDF (protected) or
> XML formats (they become legal documents).
>
> Time the League broaden their DXCC horizons to included other electronic
> verification means.
>
>
> Ron NU1U
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: August 16, 2007 23:21
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Garth Hamilton'; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Dxbase] Re: Dxbase PDF QSL's
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