Jim's attitude is the reason we are where we are. Someone suggests something new and there are always some that say: "Let's just forget it!".
Well, that is not the answer. The answer is progress. I have been off the air for the past 13 years and just got back on this past March. In those 13 years the world has moved on and technology has taken over. Many amateur organizations and companies are still in the stone age. Go to any ham radio companies website and tell me how easy it is to browse their wares and place an online order. OOOpppsss it's in PDF format with no price list. Although this LOTW is a step forward it is a long way off from being in the 21st century. Why not have the ability to upload and download cards through LOTW? OOpppssss They can't even keep the site up for too long at a time. My wife, who was not around in my ham days, thinks it is so stupid to have to send for cards for everyone when there is the internet, when technology has advanced so much. $2.00 per card for return postage + 90c for postage and just getting DXCC is going to cost you $290 dollars. Ridiculous! The part about being skilled to get your cards is the wrong way to think. There is no SKILL in getting cards. You send em, you get em. Ham radio has turned into one big contest and he who has the most money, wins! Many of you earn 6 figures but many of us do not! How many have a 1000MP rig? I can't even think of one of those. Way out of my league. I use a TS930, an AL1200 bought in 1993. All my antennas are pre 1995. I just can't afford stuff these days. I have to hope my rotor doesn't go bad because I will not be able to replace it. It was bought in the late 70's. Off my soap box for now, 73's Tim, KQ8M -----Original Message----- From: jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:30 AM To: Kamar; 'Peter Dougherty'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Garth Hamilton'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Re: Dxbase PDF QSL's Well Folks there is an easy way to end all this senseless stupid debate... Drop ALL the awards programs.. No one and I mean no one would have to bitch about not getting a card back from this station or that station - no certificates to worry about ... We have done practically everything else to kill the hobby,,, Slowed the code down - to get more people into the hobby - didn't work.. Dropped the code - to get more people into the hobby - didn't work Eased up on the theory to get more people into the hobby - didn't work Some countries made the theory practically none existent - to get more people into the hobby - didn't work.. Canada is working on dropping the theory altogether to get more people into the hobby - won't work. 23 channel CB's just might make a come back.. I get a lot of enjoyment from working DX and I take pride in being able to get the cards back from as many of those contacts as I possibly can.. Its part of the game and the people that are skilled at playing the game will get a large percentage of their cards answered.. Everything that we do in life is a challenge why should our hobby not have those hurdles to deal with.. Yes - kill the Awards programs and that will solve the problem -- we can always tell everyone " Oh Yes I Worked That One ".. The old been there - done that - got the T-Shirt -- who is going to know any different.. Sorry guys -- just got sick and tired of reading about what everyone wants to do - end result - driving another nail into the coffin of a once worthwhile hobby.. Jim VE3CM - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kamar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Peter Dougherty'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Garth Hamilton'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 8:54 AM Subject: RE: [Dxbase] Re: Dxbase PDF QSL's > > The DXCC 'officials' need to get with the times. Log of the world is good > step toward Electronic QSL confirmation (and that's all it is) However, I > still don't have a nice card or a similar facsimile of the DX station's > QSL. > > In my opinion, an electronic transmitted QSL confirmation via a > 'protected' > Adobe PDF or similar type of document, which is then printed, should be > qualified as confirmation as would be with a 'paper' card transmitted via > the mail. In the end we have a valid confirmation. > > Those folks worried about hams cheating, those that do, will continue to > happen requardless of the transmission media. > > I'm personally tired of spending money, many times over, to obtain a 'new' > confirmation with the results of only feeding money with out any results. > I've been a Ham since 1963, and I've readily adapted to legal electronic > transmissions. Every email that I send at work becomes a legal document. > All of my documents at work are now formatted in Adobe PDF (protected) or > XML formats (they become legal documents). > > Time the League broaden their DXCC horizons to included other electronic > verification means. > > > Ron NU1U > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Peter Dougherty > Sent: August 16, 2007 23:21 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Garth Hamilton'; [email protected] > Subject: RE: [Dxbase] Re: Dxbase PDF QSL's > > -------------Content Removed------------------ > > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.0/957 - Release Date: 8/16/2007 > 1:46 PM > >

