Am I the only crazy extremist in this joint? If so give me an ultimatum before you start bombing. I do not want to share in the fate of the Taliban. I will surrender and become your POW. At which point further hostile actions will be governed by the Geneva convention, and constitute a war crime, subject to prosecution in the Hague.
Is that Chilled enough? I wish I could be more comical about this issue, but this is serious stuff, that can not be taken lightly. I do not know the full extent of the legalities of either license. I am not a lawyer, but I do know this will take more than just a simple "I second that" attitude. My recommendation is that whoever proposes to change the license, supply a full copy of each license, with detailed rationalization of why this change in the license is required. Backed up by specific clauses in each license. And detailing all other repercussions this change will have. NanoFace @;^)>> (Back to my bunker now, please don't smoke me out of my hole) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Melvin Sent: November 28, 2001 2:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Re: Widget Discussions, License issues Hey Lazlo, chill out dude. Maybe someone could post a link to each license we can make a better decision. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laszlo Teglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Doug Melvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dan Steinman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 2:49 PM Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Re: Widget Discussions, License issues > Have you read the BSD style license. Have any of you read the license. I > hardly think you could have read it and seriously contemplated it in the > short amount of time this has been discussed. How can any one second a move > as serious as changing the license without, first contemplating it? Changing > the license is not something that should be taken lightly. > > Anyway, who would be the authority on changing the license, when the product > is Public Domain, and belongs to humanity? Certainly not a few vocalists who > second the motion on a whim. > > NanoFace =;^| > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Melvin > Sent: November 28, 2001 2:25 PM > To: Dan Steinman; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Re: Widget Discussions, License issues > > > I second the move to a BSD style license > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Steinman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:03 PM > Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Re: Widget Discussions, License issues > > > > Thanks for your support Raymond! > > > > As it stands now you won't be able to use the DynAPI for your CD media > unless every line of code in the application is released under the LGPL - > which is likely not possible since it probably includes a lot of other code > and information that can not be publically redistributable. > > > > I posted a message to this list a little while ago about a possible switch > to a BSD style license (there was no responses so I wonder if anyone > recieved it). There is a very good discussion on Slashdot.org today > (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/11/27/1650256&mode=thread) about this > very subject - it's all very applicable to the current situation I am in > with the DynAPI and my widget pack. > > > > There are a lot of possible uses for DynAPI that cannot be met by > distributing the DynAPI under the LGPL. I am in support of a move to a BSD > style license which grants the ability to use the DynAPI in closed-source > products. Even if only for the core files (dynapi.js, dyndoc, dynlayer, > event, mouseevent) are BSD'd then it would solve the current situation. > > > > This would still keep DynAPI open source, and relieve me of some of the > grief of having to refusing to allow people to use the DynAPI in commercial > projects that could greatly benefit from it. > > > > I'm still not sure how I'll handle licensing issues with my widgets. I > will sell it for $30 for use in a commercial site, and have a different > "bundling" or "reseller" license to use the widgets inside another > appliciation. > > > > Regards, > > Dan Steinman > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 09:00:46AM -0800, Raymond Irving wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Maintening a widget pack takes a lot of time and > > > effort, not to mention the documentation. I'm in total > > > agreement with Dan on the subject about commercial > > > widget packs. If we need quality widgets and support > > > why not pay a fee for it! It's very good when you can > > > turn to the developer and report errors, request > > > features and don't get the response... > > > > > > " IF YOU WANT IT JUST DO IT YOURSELFT!!!" > > > > > > Beside that, I just have a quick questions: > > > > > > --- Dan Steinman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > So I am taking things into my own hands, and will be > > > > producing a set of widgets that are of commercial > > > > quality, will be supporting them and maintaining > > > > them on a regular basis. And it will cost around > > > > $30 to use these widgets in a commercial website. > > > > > > I write web apps that are distributed on CD media to > > > various customers. Does this means that I'll have to > > > purchase a widget pack for each copy of my > > > application? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! 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