There are two main use cases of using a UML tool:

1) When designing some large subsystems it's very convenient to work
with a modeling tool.  Here a lot of different types of UML diagrams can
be useful.  It's also useful that tools like Together automatically
round-trip code for you.  The drawback is that it needs to store a lot
of meta-information in the code, thus leaving a lot of comments.
2) For navigation and quick overviews of the code.  The only really
useful tool here is an ability to look at a class diagram quickly built
from the source code.

I would not want IDEA to go for the #1, but #2 is definitely desired a
lot.

Best regards,

Eugene Belyaev
IntelliJ Software, http://www.intellij.com
"Develop with pleasure"

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephan 
> J. Schmidt
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 5:07 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Eap-features] J2EE integration and UML capabilities
> 
> 
> -1
> 
> Do not bloat IDEA. I do not need UML in idea. You usually 
> modell something and when writing code, you only remodell 
> from time to time. You can use an UML tool for modelling, 
> export to XMI and use XSL to generate the classes. We use 
> something similiar, we generate not only the UML defined 
> classes but usually a lot of support classes (forms, session 
> beans, XML converter). For deployment descriptors and 
> interfaces we use xDoclet, which is fine. We only need IDEA 
> to understand the relationships between 
> remote/home/local/business classes and interfaces,
> 
> my 2c
> bye
> -stephan
> 
> On Thu, 2001-11-22 at 09:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > These are my wishes, I know there's been talk of UML capabilities 
> > earlier and I really look forward to seeing it :) A strong 
> integration 
> > with J2EE would also be very nice thing to have (for me it's a must 
> > have, but maybe not for others). Here I'm especially thinking about 
> > deployment for multiple server (CMP 2.0 deployment also) and easy 
> > debugging/testing. I the last point is a huge one, but it 
> would still 
> > be very nice. Together has nice UML and J2EE integration, but their 
> > editor is really bad compared to the raw power of IDEA.
> > 
> > Just my 2 cents.
> > 
> > /Jeppe
> > 
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