Firewall is an issue for me and I guess for many others. An easy solution could be to have newsserver listen on port 80 as well as standard 119. Email has it's benefits too, so keeping it equal to news would be desirable.
fedor. On Saturday 20 April 2002 02:33 am, you wrote: > Bah, IDEA would benefit from less feedback, if you ask me (yesyes, I know > nobody is). > > One advantage of newsgroups is what others cite as a disadvantage, you'd > have to go out and read them, therefore people won't feel obliged to pipe > in with whimsical requests all the time. > > An email to news gateway would be a good solution, since I do empathise > with the firewall issues and that few corporations will allow NNTP access > to the outside. > > Hani > > On 20/4/02 8:08 am, "Andrew Timberlake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would like to add that I also prefer email lists to newsgroups. > > I allows me to monitor interaction throughout the day in a reactive > > manner. > > Personally I would be less inclined to read the messages on a news > > server that the way I can currently glance over every mail that filters > > through my mail box. This allows me to read and conribute with every > > minor break throughout the day. > > > > This is all said to allow the developers to best access the needs of > > their customer base. > > > > Their primary goal must be to get the most and best feedback to make the > > best product. > > This is my view on the best way to get the most feedback. > > > > Thanks > > > > Andrew > > > > On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 23:11, Robert Hedin wrote: > >> Let me preface this with the fact that I have, personally, licensed and > >> paid for IntelliJ and have planned on shifting my company's development > >> group to using it as well. > >> > >> That said, I am not in favour of having sole access to the kinds of > >> information provided for by the existing mailing lists converted to news > >> groups. > >> > >> Currently, the mailing list is proactive- that is, if someone has a > >> problem, bug, fix, whatever I am notified with some semblance of > >> timeliness. A message shows up in my in-box, is appropriately routed > >> automatically to an IntelliJ folder and is flagged for me to look at. If > >> I am busy, this still happens in the background. I can get an idea of > >> the severity of problems in a given release by watching the number of > >> new mails go up. This is very easy, and keeps me informed in a very > >> timely manner. > >> > >> Conversely, sole access via news groups is reactive. In order to access > >> the news groups I have to physically make an effort to do so. In a worse > >> case scenario, I may have to wait until I am home and able to access the > >> news feed. This means that there is a good chance I won't check, simply > >> because the last thing I want to do when I stop working is get on the > >> computer yet again. > >> > >> Speaking from personal experience, I tend to review news groups > >> religiously at first, then stop due to the extra hassle and time it > >> takes. I, personally, have no problem keeping all my email archived, > >> including those from mailing lists, and using that as a first stop to > >> finding answers to problems. > >> > >> Bear in mind that I am not saying that you shouldn't have a newsgroup, > >> only that I would prefer that it not replace the current mailing lists, > >> but rather act as a different means of accessing the exact same > >> information. > >> > >> rob. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Eugene Belyaev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 2:49 PM > >> Subject: [Eap-list] IMPORTANT: Newsgroups > >> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> We now have a news server located at news.intellij.net which has a lot > >>> of newsgroups. We are planning to shift the main discussion traffic > >>> there from the eap-list and eap-features mailing lists. > >>> > >>> Please use the newsgroups instead of the mailing lists! > >>> > >>> The groups related to IntelliJ EAP are: > >>> > >>> jetbrains.intellij.eap.general > >>> jetbrains.intellij.eap.bugs > >>> jetbrains.intellij.eap.features > >>> jetbrains.intellij.eap.announcements > >>> jetbrains.intellij.eap.openapi > >>> > >>> The names are self-descriptive, so please post there according to the > >>> names. > >>> > >>> The announcement groups are read-only. > >>> > >>> We will have both mailing lists synchronized for some time with the > >>> eap.bugs and eap.features newsgroups. However, please notice that > >>> mailman (the mailing list software we use) does not form discussion > >>> threads with the newgroup server for messages posted to the mailing > >>> list. So it's not recommended to post to the mailing lists if > >>> possible. > >>> > >>> Best regards, > >>> > >>> Eugene Belyaev > >>> JetBrains, Inc / IntelliJ Software > >>> http://www.intellij.com > >>> "Develop with pleasure" > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Eap-list mailing list > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-list > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Eap-list mailing list > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-list > > _______________________________________________ > Eap-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-list _______________________________________________ Eap-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-list
