I would not have a problem with someone using my images that were related to my research. However, since I have a photography business on the side, I would not be pleased to see my photos used without acknowledgement. I think this is mostly an issue with print media - even organizations such as National Geographic buy stock photos.
Marcus www.greenlightphotography.net On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Jane Shevtsov <jane....@gmail.com> wrote: > Jim, > > Please note that what follows is meant mainly as a general discussion > of intellectual property, not of your particular case. > > "Why would you think that you can use my hard work without asking?" > > For the same reason you can cite or quote a paper of mine without > asking -- even if you're using it to make a case I strongly disagree > with. (That case is not directly analogous, as you wouldn't be copying > the entire paper, but then if I use a photo of yours in a > presentation, it'll only be on screen for 30 seconds or so.) Moreover, > you can make copies of my paper and give them to students or > colleagues without my permission. They can read the paper or use it to > line the birdcage. If I'm sending you, say, a prepublication copy as a > favor, I can ask you not to redistribute it, but once it's published, > it's out of my hands. > > I am honestly intrigued by how people come to think of copying as > stealing. If I walk into your house and steal your TV, you no longer > have a TV. If I use a photo from your website and credit you, what > have you lost? Now, the situation is different if you are a > professional photographer and rely on photography to make money. Then > the problem becomes truly difficult -- and beyond the scope of ECOLOG! > (But keep in mind that hardly anyone is going to pay for a photo for a > presentation. If it's not free, I'm just not going to use it.) > > Don't worry -- I'm not actually going to use anything from your > website. You can set whatever conditions you want and, morally and > legally, I have to abide by them. But this line of discussion is > closely related to that about access to the scientific literature. > BTW, why do you set such restrictive conditions on who can use your > photos? > > Best, > Jane > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Jim Boone <jlbo...@aol.com> wrote: > > Jane, > > "If the photo is attributed but used without your explicit permission, > would > > you call that stealing?" > > > > In general, yes; but of course, it depends. I have a "conditions for use" > > statement on my website that spells out how people can use my hard work. > > Turning the question back to you, why would you think that you can use my > > hard work without asking? > > Cheers, Jim > > > > http://www.birdandhike.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jane Shevtsov <jane....@gmail.com> > > To: Jim Boone <jlbo...@aol.com> > > Cc: ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu > > Sent: Wed, 13 May 2009 3:06 pm > > Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Open Access and Intellectual Imperialism > Correction > > > > Jim, > > > > How do you define "stealing"? Is it only if the photo is not > > attributed to you? If the photo is attributed but used without your > > explicit permissi > > on, would you call that stealing? I'm just interested > > in how different people think about these issues. > > > > Best, > > Jane Shevtsov > > > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Jim Boone <jlbo...@aol.com> wrote: > >> Tom, > >> > >> > >> I work very hard at my photography, and if you stole a photo from my > >> website > > to use in your presentation, I'd be pissed. > >> > >> > >> > >> Cheers, Jim > >> > >> http://www.birdandhike.com > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Tom Mosca III <t...@vims.edu> > >> To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU > >> Sent: Wed, 13 May 2009 5:47 am > >> Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Open Access and Intellectual Imperialism > >> Correction > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Hello Folks, > >> > >> What are your thoughts on using a copyrighted image in a presentation at > a > >> meeting? No copies are distributed, but merely displayed. > >> > >> Thanks, Tom > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > ------------- > > Jane Shevtsov > > Ecology Ph.D. candidate, University of Georgia > > co-founder, <www.worldbeyondborders.org> > > Check out my blog, <http://perceivingwholes.blogspot.com>Perceiving > Wholes > > > > "Political power comes out of the look in people's eyes." --Kim > > Stanley Robinson, _Blue Mars_ > > > > ________________________________ > > Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings! > > > > -- > ------------- > Jane Shevtsov > Ecology Ph.D. candidate, University of Georgia > co-founder, <www.worldbeyondborders.org> > Check out my blog, <http://perceivingwholes.blogspot.com>Perceiving Wholes > > "Political power comes out of the look in people's eyes." --Kim > Stanley Robinson, _Blue Mars_ >
