Dear Gary,

This does have a certain ring of familiarity. The motor-pool supervisor once 
told me to "take a couple of trips to Reno" if I didn't want to lose my 
vehicle. Government logic has not apparently changed since the last millennium. 
My suspicion is based on personal experience (not this "province"), that while 
not specific to this case, caused bells to go off in my head. Let's say that I 
learned to read USFS ads a lot more closely. I still suggest that prospective 
applicants read all notices very carefully. If I wanted this job, and if there 
was enough time, I'd go the Hq and buy the lowest secretary on the totem pole a 
drink--in theory. But that would still cost me more than just applying and 
maybe traveling long-distance for an interview. 

While I sincerely hope that your confidence is well-founded, I still kinda 
wonder . . .  Like, like what caused the foot-dragging on filling the 
"position," when was it budgeted, is the "position" really necessary . . . ? It 
would still be interesting to know how many widely-advertised "positions" in 
government end up being filled by a local? 

Mind you, I'm not necessarily opposed to fair-haired boys and girls--I was one 
myself once, and I have advocated cutting HR out of the hiring picture entirely 
and letting the people needing the staffing hunt for their own ("impractical," 
of course). I suspect that there are more than a few cases where the 
bureaucratic "i'" and "t's" are being crossed--at the expense of a lot of 
"applicants" who haven't a snowball's chance in hell of being hired. If such is 
the case, it's just plain immoral. 

I'm not cynical, just a bit skeptical. 

WT
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gary Grossman 
  To: Wayne Tyson ; ecolog 
  Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Job Announcement: US Forest Service Ecologist


  Dear Wayne, although I am not a federal employee I have watched federal 
hiring practices and seen ads like this before that have nothing to do with 
"fair-haired boys" or girls.  What they have everything to do with is getting 
people on board before drastic budget cuts occur so that you don't 
automatically lose funding by having money sitting around for an unfilled 
position.  cheers, g2 


  On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Wayne Tyson <[email protected]> wrote:

    Hmmmm--I'd be willing to bet there's a fair-haired boy or girl waiting in 
the wings and that it would be a waste of time to apply. I hope I'm wrong, but 
really, TEN days? Read the advertisement carefully. It will be interesting to 
see who is hired . . .

    WT


    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kyle Merriam" <[email protected]>
    To: <[email protected]>
    Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 3:39 PM
    Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Job Announcement: US Forest Service Ecologist


    The USDA Forest Service Sierra Cascade Province, comprised of the Modoc,
    Lassen, and Plumas National Forests in northeastern California, is
    currently advertising a one-year detail position for a GS-11 Associate
    Ecologist ($57,408.00 - $74,628.00 per year).  This position is a
    temporary promotion/detail for one year, which may be extended for up to
    five years and/or be made permanent without further competition. This
    position is open to current Career and Career-Conditional status Forest
    Service employees.

    This vacancy will be open for 10 days, beginning on 8/16/2011 and closing
    on 8/26/2011. More information about the position and how to apply is
    posted on www.usajobs.gov. Find the announcement by searching for
    Ecologist in Quincy, CA and by checking “all jobs, public and status” on
    the right of the results screen.






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  Gary D. Grossman, PhD

  Professor of Animal Ecology
  Warnell School of Forestry & Natural Resources
  University of Georgia
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