To Whom it May Concern,

I rarely respond to these futile discussion, but felt the need this time.

These type of practices have been going on
 for at least 20 years (my first job was in 1992)...and we wonder why 
the system remains impotent.  Filling positions with clones that think 
exactly like their predecessors is not likely to result in change or 
innovation...people talk about systems thinking, but few really 
understand it.

I feel sorry for the poor souls who will, no 
doubt, spend considerable time and effort in the application process.  I
 guess it keeps the pencil pushers employed.  

Remember, follow the incentives.  The money comes from the tax payers, these 
are NOT entrepreneurial efforts and are largely self serving.

Good Luck,

Jon McCloskey, Ph.D.



> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 07:34:31 -0400
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Job Announcement: US Forest Service Ecologist
> To: [email protected]
> 
> Dear Wayne, although I am not a federal employee I have watched federal
> hiring practices and seen ads like this before that have nothing to do with
> "fair-haired boys" or girls.  What they have everything to do with is
> getting people on board before drastic budget cuts occur so that you don't
> automatically lose funding by having money sitting around for an unfilled
> position.  cheers, g2
> 
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Wayne Tyson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Hmmmm--I'd be willing to bet there's a fair-haired boy or girl waiting in
> > the wings and that it would be a waste of time to apply. I hope I'm wrong,
> > but really, TEN days? Read the advertisement carefully. It will be
> > interesting to see who is hired . . .
> >
> > WT
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kyle Merriam" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 3:39 PM
> > Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Job Announcement: US Forest Service Ecologist
> >
> >
> > The USDA Forest Service Sierra Cascade Province, comprised of the Modoc,
> > Lassen, and Plumas National Forests in northeastern California, is
> > currently advertising a one-year detail position for a GS-11 Associate
> > Ecologist ($57,408.00 - $74,628.00 per year).  This position is a
> > temporary promotion/detail for one year, which may be extended for up to
> > five years and/or be made permanent without further competition. This
> > position is open to current Career and Career-Conditional status Forest
> > Service employees.
> >
> > This vacancy will be open for 10 days, beginning on 8/16/2011 and closing
> > on 8/26/2011. More information about the position and how to apply is
> > posted on www.usajobs.gov. Find the announcement by searching for
> > Ecologist in Quincy, CA and by checking “all jobs, public and status” on
> > the right of the results screen.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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