Last but not least:

DISA is part of ANSI.

Data Interchange Standards Association. The secretariat of the ANSI ASC X12 
committee, which administers the ANSI X12 standards.

Data Interchange Standards Association. Secretariat of the ASC X12 
Committee. Also serves as the secretariat for the Pan American EDIFACT Board.

Data Interchange Standards Association - in the U.S., the standards body 
that defines EDI standards. In Europe it is UN/EDIFACT.





At 03:27 PM 1/13/2005 -0600, Michael Mattias wrote:

> > In other words, DISA (on behalf of X12) is (probably) the only "legal"
> > source for machine readable X12 standards to be used in a commercial
> > product.  X12  has insisted on having the raw table data copyrighted -
> > and charging an arm and a leg for it.
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>(I am not a lawyer). (And my late sainted mother was still quite proud of me.)
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>AFAIK, the data format 'of itself'  is public domain; meaning all DISA may 
>copyright is that data "as fixed in tangible media."
>(fixing in tangible media is a requirement for copyright, anyway).
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>I do not know where a copyright lawyer would come down on this, but it 
>seems to me that if somehow manage to fix that data in
>tangible media in some format different than that offered by DISA, I'd be 
>perfectly legit to resell that form of the data.
>(Copyrighting that new format myself, thank you).
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>The one real "kicker" here though would be a license violation: without 
>ever having seen it, I'd bet dollars to donuts the license
>provided by DISA for the use of *any* of their copyright materials 
>prohibits the use of the material for the production of anything
>for resale... meaning of course, you'd have to be able to prove that you 
>did not use any DISA-copyright materials when you
>painstakingly hand-edited or or screen-scraped or PDF-parsed the 
>information in the first place.
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>All in all, an interesting question: How can a data format be a public 
>standard, but not be available except from a single supplier,
>who licenses it only for 'no-resale' use, resulting in the same net effect 
>as though that 'public' data were in fact owned
>intellectual property?
>
>Then again, I may just totally misunderstand the 'publicness'  of the ANSI 
>ASC X12 standards.
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>Michael Mattias
>Tal Systems, Inc.
>Racine WI
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