Mike,
          I agree with your assessment that rip and read is not the answer - 
integration with applications is  the real progress.  iConnect provides 
integration with applications such as QAD, Great Plains, JobBoss, EPICORE, SAP 
etc as part of the paid service.  We are evaluating the possibility of offering 
such services much like free web translation.
 
          Most companies in EDI space would like to see EDI grow but we make it 
too hard to implement and maintain and we make it too costly.  I believe the 
basic premise of EDI was to convert to one format(EDI) then "you are done" - 
the reality is that most implementations are too cumbersome to implement and 
while the implementations are similar, they are different enough that you can't 
simply add another trading partner.
 
          Web EDI companies have certainly made it possible for smaller shops 
to add a trading partner very easy.  I would suggest - so easy that smaller 
companies can add new trading partner much quicker that their larger trading 
partners.  It is up to current providers to make this easy for large companies.
 
          What every company wants eventually is to get the data in their 
ERP/MRP and I will dare suggest that Microsoft Excel is most widely used 
resource planning tool.  I see all VAN to translator providers slowly moving 
towards providing out of the box adapters for widely used ERP packages- 
essentially providing data to users the way they want it not in an intermediate 
format such as EDI.  Any VAN that fails to provide these services will continue 
to shrink.
 
          Those who feel threatened by such advances - don't be threatened.  
These advances tend to provide more opportunity then they take away from the 
specialists in the field.
 
Bipin

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Rawlins
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:45 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Translation over the Web


At 08:51 AM 11/15/2005 -0600, Michael Mattias wrote <snipped>:

> > - A couple of requests came is to handle 856 - I am not sure if this 
> can be done - to formulate EDI ASN based of application data
>input???  Any thoughts on this topic?
>
>FWIW, as someone who earns a living converting ANSI ASC X12 EDI to 
>'something else' I'm not sure I'm so terribly receptive to tools
>designed to replace me.

"Web-based" EDI has been around for awhile now - the only thing different 
about this service is that it is free.  Take heart Michael, as we all know 
the real challenges and opportunities are not in finding yet another 
replacement for "rip and read", it's in integrating EDI with the back-end 
systems.


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Michael C. Rawlins, Rawlins EC Consulting
www.rawlinsecconsulting.com




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