Rachel Another option is to cut expenses.
To: "'EDI-L'" <[email protected]> Organization: Rachel Foerster & Associates Ltd From: "Rachel Foerster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date sent: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:15:33 -0600 Subject: RE: [EDI-L] EDI documentation / spec software Send reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Well, Klaus, when an organization experiences declining membership, and when > it is a membership dues-revenue based organization, and another substantial > portion of its revenue comes from selling its work product, one can begin to > understand the desperate effort to find other revenue sources. > > > > Almost every other ANSI-accredited SDO, non-ANSI accredited SDOs like W3C, > OASIS, IETF, and other industry-sector specific organizations (e.g., > CAQH/CORE) almost always make their specifications and guides publicly > available at no cost. After all, isn´t the goal to facilitate electronic > data interchange, electronic commerce, etc. rather than selling standards > and IGs? > > > > Unfortunately, X12 and DISA are in a double blind: membership is declining, > the mix of current member types and sizes results in less membership dues > revenue, and fewer organizations are buying the standards. I´m not saying > I´m in favor of the proposed IPR policy, just trying to illuminate the > drivers of such a policy. > > > > Rachel > > > > Rachel Foerster & Associates Ltd > > 39432 North Avenue > > Beach Park, IL 60099 > > Voice: 847-872-8070 > > Fax: 847-589-8081 > > email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <http://www.rfa-edi.com/> www.rfa-edi.com > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Klaus-Dieter Naujok > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 5:54 PM > To: EDI-L > Subject: Re: [EDI-L] EDI documentation / spec software > > > > Based on the exchange between Bob Scheuermann and Doug Anderson: > > Bob: If I understand this correctly, I am in copyright violation if I > manually create an implementation guideline for any transaction set > without buying some table data from someone? > > Doug: You are incorrect, unless you are selling that implementation > guide. > > Bob: I'm not selling, just creating for distribution to trading > partners. So in that case there is no IP/copyright issue? > > Doug: Yes, that is my understanding. > > ... and Mike's earlier comment: > > "the intention of the policy was discussed as being targeted primarily > at EDI software vendors and service providers who profit from DISA IPR" > > ... it would be OK to create generic implementation guides for all X12 > transactions, à la UN/EDIFACT, under an open source project and > publish them as an "Open Source" product without being in violation of > the IPR policy and having to pay license fees. > > This would allow providers to include/use the data from the Open > Source project in their applications/services and only charge for > their added value (the rest of their product offering), a valid common > practice by many commercial software vendors that include open source > in compliance with the open source license. > > Something worthwhile to look into should DISA/X12 go ahead with their > new licensing program. > > I find X12/DISA's action as rather backward thinking as other B2B > organizations do exactly the opposite by publishing their EDI/XML > structured documents freely on the internet for downloading without > any license fees. > > Klaus > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ... > Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, > <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> > > Job postings are welcome, but for job postings or requests for work: <JOBS> > IS REQUIRED in the subject line as a prefix. > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > Earl Wertheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.spe-edi.com ... Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Job postings are welcome, but for job postings or requests for work: <JOBS> IS REQUIRED in the subject line as a prefix. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
