Adam

> To recap, I think it would be cost benefit for AS2 in the long term.
> SOme of the variables are how large your transactions are per
> partners. 

You have to be careful...  It's not how large the transactions are.  You 
probably mean the total amount of traffic, measured in Kilobits.  You could 
have a jumbo ASN sent once a season.  That's not 'large'.

Since VANs usually charge by the Kilobit, you want to analyse your current 
volume and estimate how much money it's costing you now.  If the VAN charges by 
document, then you have to take that into account.


> If anyone could speak of the savings in detail that would be great.

I am currently using IP*Works from nsoftware for my clients.  For a single 
user, it's FREE (http://www.freeas2.com/ )

In order to add an additional license, you have to pay $600.00 USD for 5 
licenses.  That's $500.00 for the software and $100.00 for the maintenance.  
After that, it's $100.00 per year to be able to get updates.

In the 2nd year, your cost is only $50.00 (2 TPs) to $20.00 (5 TPs) per TP 
(depending on how many TPs you have)

In some cases, I've started with the free version and when necessary, I've 
asked the client to purchase the 5 license version.

Some TPs may require 2 licenses ;-(  (ie. Test and production)

I would use the openas2 software, but I'm not familiar enough with Java, it's 
not 'Drummond certified' (what a lot of BS) and I don't mind spending the 
additional $$ to get some support.  For this price, you get email support.

Your additional cost would be your time to install and setup.  You need a PC 
that is on 24/7.  You need a fixed IP or a dynamic IP URL.  You may need a port 
to be opened in your firewall.  You have to generate and exchange security 
certificates on a regular basis (eg. every few years).

Finally, you have to integrate IP*Works with your existing system.  IP*Works 
requires a different folder for each TP, so you may have to write some scripts 
to move files around.

You compare the AS2 cost (software & labour) against the current VAN charges to 
see what your savings (if any) are...  If you are doing a lot of volume with a 
TP, then converting to AS2 may save you a lot of money...

Veel geluk



> --- On Wed, 9/17/08, Klaus-Dieter Naujok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Sep 16, 2008, at 5:34 PM, Ricardo Johnson wrote:
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