Your views are passe (they shouldn't be, but they are).  Testing is now quoted 
separately in every quote I've seen.  It's all smoke and mirrors, like prices 
at retail stores being $399.99, somehow people view that price as being $300ish 
rather than only one penny shy of $400.  Also, truly horrific, I've been part 
of an outsourced project where the customer was told that the promise of maps 
being delivered on a certain date meant only that the maps would be delivered, 
not that they would actually work.  How does that sit with you?  I found it 
appalling.


Leah



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From: Michael Mattias/LS <[email protected]>
To: EDI-L <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] EDI PROJECT ESTIMATEs

> GXS is quoting 8 days for an 850 with SDQ clone map and 20 days for a new 
> base map!  So 40 hours is not unreasonable for a new map in my opinion and 
>  >whether it includes the testing or not depends on the complexity...

This "testing as a separate service" reference popped up in a couple of 
posts this thread.

As far back as I go (1967) , "testing" was an assumed integral and 
inseparable part of software development.

I know my clients still insist that any software I create for them be tested 
before turned over to them.

Is it just me?  Are my views now utterly passe?

Michael C. Mattias
Tal Systems Inc.
Racine WI
[email protected]













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