I was in a large hospital just a couple of years ago and they were using faxes to communicate business documents between the clinical areas and purchasing, I doubt that has changed. There are plenty of small manufacturing companies that are weak on back office technology. David Frenkel
________________________________ From: Skip Stein <[email protected]> To: David Frenkel <[email protected]> Cc: EDI-L EDI-L <[email protected]>; David Frenkel <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [EDI-L] bisync over a IP based phone? Hello David, I don't disagree, but I don't believe many corporations are still at this primitive level. True, many do not have decent Internet access and that is a shame, but will change over the short term. If a company is still using bisync and fax technology, I view that as a tremendous opportunity to help them get current, save money and gain market share by increasing their ability to compete. Always the consultant.... <grin>! Cheers, Skip Stein Management Systems Consulting, Inc. http://www.msc-inc.net LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/skipstein Twitter: http://twitter.com/SkipStein Direct: 407-680-3914 Cell: 407-683-6816 Office: 800-856-3193 Fax: 888-243-1843 Friday, May 18, 2012, 1:07:15 PM, you wrote: In this Internet, technology crazed world it is still estimated that 20% of the people in the US do not use the Internet so there still is a market for old technology. http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm David Frenkel ________________________________ From: Skip Stein <[email protected]> To: Travis Truax <[email protected]> Cc: tcstoodt <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [EDI-L] bisync over a IP based phone? Hello Travis, Fax? Another decades old obsolete technology. People still display 'fax numbers' instead of email addresses. Insanity persists. Inefficient, obsolete, time consuming and waste of energy and paper (do they still use paper?). And companies wonder why they loose money and cut manpower instead of making the infrastructure more efficient. Another indicator of obsolete thinking in American businesses. What are they teaching in colleges these days? Use of stone knives and bear claws? Happy Friday! Cheers, Skip Stein Management Systems Consulting, Inc. http://www.msc-inc.net LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/skipstein Twitter: http://twitter.com/SkipStein Direct: 407-680-3914 Cell: 407-683-6816 Office: 800-856-3193 Fax: 888-243-1843 Friday, May 18, 2012, 12:17:40 PM, you wrote: Hi Skip. No idea - He asked the question, I gave him an answer. Seems about normal to me. Crappy old stuff just won't die. I'm trying to diagnose a faxing problem right now..... Travis- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skip Stein" <[email protected]> To: "Travis Truax" <[email protected]> Cc: "tcstoodt" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 11:03:15 AM Subject: Re: [EDI-L] bisync over a IP based phone? Re: [EDI-L] bisync over a IP based phone? Hello Travis, Why in the world would anyone attempt to even do this? 20 year old technology, while great at the time (I was there!) is so error-prone and unreliable, not to mention slower than spit running uphill. Might be fun for a school project to show the history of telecommunications and how it has changed but in the 'real world'? Not so much. Cheers, Skip Stein Management Systems Consulting, Inc. http://www.msc-inc.net LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/skipstein Twitter: http://twitter.com/SkipStein Direct: 407-680-3914 Cell: 407-683-6816 Office: 800-856-3193 Fax: 888-243-1843 Friday, May 18, 2012, 9:46:41 AM, you wrote: My first response would have been that this is a really bad idea, but it's been so long since we used bisync - I had forgotten how slow a baud rate those used. Aren't they 4800 or 9600? If it's not going above like 14400, you *may* be able to find a solid ATA that will work for you. As long as the ATA is connected to the phone switch via a LAN, and nothing remote. Higher (read normal) baud rates with modems or faxes in general do not work over VoIP. The slower the better your chance of success. It would be really sad if you had to slow your bisync down to keep it working. ;) Travis- ----- Original Message ----- From: "tcstoodt" < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 8:10:15 AM Subject: [EDI-L] bisync over a IP based phone? Hi, Would an old bisync modem connection to a van still work if the phone line it was using was switched from a landline to an IP phone? Has anyone done this? We're converting to AS2 but our phone guys want to make this switch right away. Thanks. TS ------------------------------------ ... 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