David

> I was in a large hospital just a couple of years ago and they were
> using faxes to communicate business documents between the clinical
> areas and purchasing, I doubt that has changed.

Most medical clinics still use faxes to communicate.

Some have switched to HL7, but until someone comes up with a simple and secure 
method to send emails, medical information will continue to be sent by fax.



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>  From: Skip Stein <[email protected]>
> To: David Frenkel <[email protected]> 
> Cc: EDI-L EDI-L <[email protected]>; David Frenkel <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 12:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [EDI-L] bisync over a IP based phone?
>   
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>  
>    
>  
> Hello David,
> 
> I don't disagree, but I don't believe many corporations are still at this 
> primitive level.  True, many do not have decent Internet access and that is a 
> shame, but will change over the short term.  If a company is still using 
> bisync and fax technology, I view that as a tremendous opportunity to help 
> them get current, save money and gain market share by increasing their 
> ability to compete.  Always the consultant.... <grin>!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Skip   Stein
> 
> Management   Systems   Consulting,  Inc.
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> Friday, May 18, 2012, 1:07:15 PM, you wrote:
> 
> In this Internet, technology crazed world it is still estimated that 20% of 
> the people in the US do not use the Internet so there still is a market for 
> old technology. 
> 
> http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm
> 
> David Frenkel 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Skip Stein <[email protected]>
> To: Travis Truax <[email protected]> 
> Cc: tcstoodt <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [EDI-L] bisync over a IP based phone?
> 
> Hello Travis,
> 
> Fax? Another decades old obsolete technology. People still display 'fax 
> numbers' instead of email addresses. Insanity persists. Inefficient, 
> obsolete, time consuming and waste of energy and paper (do they still use 
> paper?). And companies wonder why they loose money and cut manpower instead 
> of making the infrastructure more efficient. Another indicator of obsolete 
> thinking in American businesses. What are they teaching in colleges these 
> days? Use of stone knives and bear claws?
> 
> Happy Friday!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Skip Stein
> 
> Management Systems Consulting, Inc.
> http://www.msc-inc.net
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> Direct: 407-680-3914
> Cell: 407-683-6816
> Office: 800-856-3193
> Fax: 888-243-1843
> 
> Friday, May 18, 2012, 12:17:40 PM, you wrote:
> 
> Hi Skip. No idea - He asked the question, I gave him an answer. 
> Seems about normal to me. Crappy old stuff just won't die. I'm trying to 
> diagnose a faxing problem right now..... 
> 
> Travis- 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "Skip Stein" <[email protected]> 
> To: "Travis Truax" <[email protected]> 
> Cc: "tcstoodt" <[email protected]>, [email protected] 
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 11:03:15 AM 
> Subject: Re: [EDI-L] bisync over a IP based phone? 
> 
> Re: [EDI-L] bisync over a IP based phone? Hello Travis, 
> 
> Why in the world would anyone attempt to even do this? 20 year old 
> technology, while great at the time (I was there!) is so error-prone and 
> unreliable, not to mention slower than spit running uphill. Might be fun for 
> a school project to show the history of telecommunications and how it has 
> changed but in the 'real world'? Not so much. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Skip Stein 
> 
> Management Systems Consulting, Inc. 
> http://www.msc-inc.net 
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/skipstein 
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/SkipStein 
> 
> Direct: 407-680-3914 
> Cell: 407-683-6816 
> Office: 800-856-3193 
> Fax: 888-243-1843 
> 
> Friday, May 18, 2012, 9:46:41 AM, you wrote: 
> 
> My first response would have been that this is a really bad idea, but it's 
> been so long since we used bisync - I had forgotten how slow a baud rate 
> those used. 
> Aren't they 4800 or 9600? If it's not going above like 14400, you *may* be 
> able to find a solid ATA that will work for you. As long as the ATA is 
> connected to the phone switch via a LAN, and nothing remote. Higher (read 
> normal) baud rates with modems or faxes in general do not work over VoIP. The 
> slower the better your chance of success. It would be really sad if you had 
> to slow your bisync down to keep it working. ;) 
> 
> Travis- 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: "tcstoodt" < [email protected] > 
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 8:10:15 AM 
> Subject: [EDI-L] bisync over a IP based phone? 
> 
> Hi, 
> Would an old bisync modem connection to a van still work if the phone line it 
> was using was switched from a landline to an IP phone? 
> Has anyone done this? We're converting to AS2 but our phone guys want to make 
> this switch right away. Thanks. TS 
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