Re: [edk2] [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration Software

Sat, 17 Nov 2018 11:10:44 -0800 

Hey Sean,
Thank you for your input. I'm going to run some tests with Github's discussions feature so that I have a good understanding of how it measures up to the offline capabilities of email. I think that was one of the only concerns brought up yesterday. 


In terms of Phabricator, I'll admit, I'm very new to it and have a lot 
to learn. Could you elaborate a bit on the shortcomings you see, 
specifically integrations and searchability. If you could give specific 
examples that would help a lot in our research.


Thanks!

Cheers,
Stephano

On 11/16/2018 6:42 PM, Sean Brogan wrote:

Mike,

I like the github teams option for discussion as it is just there, free, and 
easy.  It integrates nicely with all other parts of github.  Notifications are 
supported for those that want email.   Is there any reason this path doesn't 
get used now as a test since tianocore is already in github?

I really can't get behind the Phabricator tool suite as it just has too many 
downsides (self-hosted or pay, lack of integrations, lack of support and 
limited searchability, poor ci integration, etc).

Thanks
Sean



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Subject: Re: [edk2] [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration Software

Hi Stephano,

GitHub supports discussions for teams.

If we added a new team to the GitHub TianoCore organization for all developers 
that want to be involved in community topics and design discussions (which 
should closely match the current members of
edk2-devel) then that may be a simple option that uses services that already 
there.

Another option is to use discussions for one of the exiting teams (e.g. 
Tianocore Maintainers) and make posts for these discussion topics public.

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Best regards,

Mike





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The only reason I didn't include Slack is that it will only log so
much information before things start falling off into the ether.

Does anyone in the community currently use Slack and know of an easy
way of archiving conversations publicly?


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Subject: Re: [edk2] [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration

Software







        If we get to vote, I’d vote against Google

Groups.  Their interface is very geared toward their internal work
flow and seems to change on a whim.
Thanks,Kevin






On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 11:08 AM -0600, "stephano"

<[email protected]> wrote:











We are looking to augment our current communication

methods (mailing list / IRC) with a modern solution for group
collaboration. The goal is to allow folks to communicate effectively
without interrupting the current patch review system, as well as
enabling any future systems with more robust options.


Specific features we are looking for include

attachments (currently blocked by the list), robust logging, modern
chat, and integration with tools like bug trackers and source
repositories (APIs, or better yet, pre-rolled plugins).


Our current contenders are Google Groups and Groups.io.

This RFC is in hopes of finding other options to evaluate.


Cheers,
Stephano
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