Rich, Thanks for the comments. I do give Fisher lots of credit and don't try to demonize him. Just to point out the climate of the early 1900s that led to the need to protect human subjects. Fisher was, frankly, tame in comparison and quite compelling in some of his arguments.
My audience in this class is comprised of all graduate students. A diverse group...many are biochemistry and molecular biologists Some dentists, MDs and Epidemiology students. Most are working on some sort of research project of their own. Some were not aware of the NIH certification for studying human subjects. I would hope that they would be interested in Ethics...but I do find that many researchers have a little bit of resentment towards Review Boards and funding agencies concerning Ethical issues. I hope this discussion is appropriate for the newsgroup. If not, I will understand. Warren May Rich Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > On 22 Oct 2002 09:19:09 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Warren) wrote: > > > Hello, > > I've been reading a little about Fisher and the Eugenics movement. In > > talking to my class about Gossett's t and Fisher's F distribution, I > > presented a little bit of the controversy surrounding Fisher and > > Eugenics. I assigned one of Fisher's papers in which he talks a > > little about Social Darwinism. > [ ... ] > > As I understand from reading Stephen Jay Gould, Fisher > was a founder of modern genetics. That is worth mentioning. > > Gould also described Fisher as (my recollection, and *my* > words) a bit of a racist fool when it came to the social implications. > - mention it, perhaps. It might be overdoing it, to assign old, > contentious texts to young people ... non-historians who are > not accustomed to translating *anything* across social periods. > > History: I have enjoyed reading Stigler. . . ================================================================= Instructions for joining and leaving this list, remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES, and archives are available at: . http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ . =================================================================
