Of course.

Shani.

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 20:48 Andrew Leung, <[email protected]> wrote:

> When you resend the revised form, can you delete all of the existing data
> submitted under the previous version to ensure that unneeded information
> won't be stored?
>
> Andrew
>
> Sent from my smartphone. Apologies for any typos.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Shani Evenstein <[email protected]>
> Date: 2018-11-12 1:44 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Education ML <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] join user group without google
>
> Hello all,
>
> There seems to be some misunderstanding --
> * We are recognized by AffCom. The details we requested are for a future
> option we might want to persue, of refistering as a charity *outside* the
> Wikimedia movement.
> * Details are not posted to this mailing list, but rather to a closed and
> private google form, which is only availabe to 2 people: the membership
> admin (Filip) and the chair (me).
> * Some details were asked so if we decide to apply to become a charity, we
> will already have the details; while other details are meant to help us
> connect the right people to the right people, when newcomers approach us.
> * There is precedent for asking such details with both chapters & the
> WikiProject Medicine User Group, which is similar in acrivity to our UG.
> * That said, as this is concerning people, the board will reconsider
> changing the form. The idea is to make it easy to participate, not
> difficult. If we end up deciding to register as a charity outside the WM
> Movement, we'll ask for more details.
>
> So stay tuned. Filip will send a new version of the form in the coming
> week.
>
> Best,
> Shani.
>
>
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 18:57 Avery Jensen, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I do not understand why they are asking people for personal data at all.
> >
> > The Wikimedia Foundation has requirements for people with access to
> > personal information.
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Access_to_nonpublic_personal_data_policy
> >
> > It looks like they want to apply for official recognition from the
> > affiliations committee.  Groups are not required to do this, but it has
> > some advantages, like using the trademarks.  The application requires "
> two
> > primary contacts willing to identify themselves with the Wikimedia
> > Foundation."  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_user_groups  It
> > also says if someone wants to form an official group, they can have
> > "Affiliations Committee Liaison support during and after the approval
> > process".  If that is what they are trying to do, they need to have some
> > advice about starting a group, so they do not cause the Wikimedia
> > Foundation some legal problem.
> >
> > I would also strongly recommend that people not post their phone numbers
> to
> > this list.  Unlike the Wikimedia projects, information on a mailing list
> > cannot be removed and is indexed by search engines.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 10:59 AM Alexandre Hocquet <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > On 12/11/2018 09:36, Ilario Valdelli wrote:
> > > > I agree in that point.
> > >
> > > Although what points Ilario is relevant, my main concern (as Avery
> > > points out too) is more the use of Google forms with *mandatory* fields
> > > to fill than the privacy policy of the user group and/or the "centre
> for
> > > Internet & society" (although I agree that more clarity on that point
> > > might help too)
> > >
> > > In short, if applying to membership means compulsory give away of
> pieces
> > > of information like phone numbers to Google, then I'm not in.
> > >
> > > Alternatively, if google document it is, then the least would be to NOT
> > > make the fields to fill up mandatory.
> > > --
> > > ***********************************************
> > > Alexandre Hocquet
> > >
> > > Université de Lorraine & Archives Henri Poincaré
> > > [email protected]
> > > http://poincare.univ-lorraine.fr/fr/membre-titulaire/alexandre-hocquet
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