It looks like this form is linked from the front page of the user group and it is still collecting personal data. Should it be removed? There are probably other people who have gotten talk page notifications and are not on this mailing list. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_%26_Education_User_Group
I see also the names of the people who signed up for the project have all been removed. Maybe this is why I didn't get any board election notifications from this user group. https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_%26_Education_User_Group&diff=next&oldid=18560292 On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 1:50 PM Shani Evenstein <shani.e...@gmail.com> wrote: > Of course. > > Shani. > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 20:48 Andrew Leung, <andrewcle...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > When you resend the revised form, can you delete all of the existing data > > submitted under the previous version to ensure that unneeded information > > won't be stored? > > > > Andrew > > > > Sent from my smartphone. Apologies for any typos. > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Shani Evenstein <shani.e...@gmail.com> > > Date: 2018-11-12 1:44 PM (GMT-05:00) > > To: Education ML <education@lists.wikimedia.org> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] join user group without google > > > > Hello all, > > > > There seems to be some misunderstanding -- > > * We are recognized by AffCom. The details we requested are for a future > > option we might want to persue, of refistering as a charity *outside* the > > Wikimedia movement. > > * Details are not posted to this mailing list, but rather to a closed and > > private google form, which is only availabe to 2 people: the membership > > admin (Filip) and the chair (me). > > * Some details were asked so if we decide to apply to become a charity, > we > > will already have the details; while other details are meant to help us > > connect the right people to the right people, when newcomers approach us. > > * There is precedent for asking such details with both chapters & the > > WikiProject Medicine User Group, which is similar in acrivity to our UG. > > * That said, as this is concerning people, the board will reconsider > > changing the form. The idea is to make it easy to participate, not > > difficult. If we end up deciding to register as a charity outside the WM > > Movement, we'll ask for more details. > > > > So stay tuned. Filip will send a new version of the form in the coming > > week. > > > > Best, > > Shani. > > > > > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 18:57 Avery Jensen, <averydjen...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I do not understand why they are asking people for personal data at > all. > > > > > > The Wikimedia Foundation has requirements for people with access to > > > personal information. > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Access_to_nonpublic_personal_data_policy > > > > > > It looks like they want to apply for official recognition from the > > > affiliations committee. Groups are not required to do this, but it has > > > some advantages, like using the trademarks. The application requires " > > two > > > primary contacts willing to identify themselves with the Wikimedia > > > Foundation." https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_user_groups > It > > > also says if someone wants to form an official group, they can have > > > "Affiliations Committee Liaison support during and after the approval > > > process". If that is what they are trying to do, they need to have > some > > > advice about starting a group, so they do not cause the Wikimedia > > > Foundation some legal problem. > > > > > > I would also strongly recommend that people not post their phone > numbers > > to > > > this list. Unlike the Wikimedia projects, information on a mailing > list > > > cannot be removed and is indexed by search engines. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 10:59 AM Alexandre Hocquet < > > > alexandre.hocq...@univ-lorraine.fr> wrote: > > > > > > > On 12/11/2018 09:36, Ilario Valdelli wrote: > > > > > I agree in that point. > > > > > > > > Although what points Ilario is relevant, my main concern (as Avery > > > > points out too) is more the use of Google forms with *mandatory* > fields > > > > to fill than the privacy policy of the user group and/or the "centre > > for > > > > Internet & society" (although I agree that more clarity on that point > > > > might help too) > > > > > > > > In short, if applying to membership means compulsory give away of > > pieces > > > > of information like phone numbers to Google, then I'm not in. > > > > > > > > Alternatively, if google document it is, then the least would be to > NOT > > > > make the fields to fill up mandatory. > > > > -- > > > > *********************************************** > > > > Alexandre Hocquet > > > > > > > > Université de Lorraine & Archives Henri Poincaré > > > > alexandre.hocq...@univ-lorraine.fr > > > > > http://poincare.univ-lorraine.fr/fr/membre-titulaire/alexandre-hocquet > > > > *********************************************** > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Education mailing list > > > > Education@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Education mailing list > > > Education@lists.wikimedia.org > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Education mailing list > > Education@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > > _______________________________________________ > > Education mailing list > > Education@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > > > _______________________________________________ > Education mailing list > Education@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > _______________________________________________ Education mailing list Education@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
