Ok, I'll bite :-)
paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/00/08/21/000821hnwebsphere.xml
<flamebait>
Soooooo... IBM may OpenSource WS SE? And the reason would to prevent MS,
Sun, et al. from gaining dominance from using a core technology?
Right. *cough*bullshit*cough*
First of all, we are talking about Standard Edition. And, what is that
exactly? Mostly it's the web-stuff (a large part of which is Apache,
which already is OS BTW), but although the article wants us to believe
they'll OS the EJB stuff as well, EJB support is not in the Standard
Edition.
So, they're giving away stuff that is mostly OpenSource anyway. How
nice.
What's the gotcha? Well, they have the Tivoli and Visual Age integration
done, so you'd want to buy that for administration and development
('cause I don't think that will be OpenSource..). Also, once you want to
do real stuff (i.e. EJB) you would most likely want to upgrade to
Advanced Edition. Which costs money. Talk about rat poison. But it
looked nice to start with, right?
Hence, the comment about an OpenSource WebSphere making EJB commodity
level is pure BS. IMNSHO we at jBoss are way ahead of them in that
endeavour (see http://www.jboss.org/game_over.htm). A product such as
WebSphere which is very very rarely mentioned in the same sentence as
the word "excellent" is not likely to pull that off. Sorry guys, but
it's not gonna happen that way.
(which many seem to realize, because you would be amazed by the number
of ex-EJB-vendor-employees that help us out currently. Leave the boat
while its still sinking and not at the bottom of the ocean guys)
So no, IBM OpenSourcing WebSphere Standard Edition is not going to make
other vendors consider OpenSource. They are OpenSourcing because
otherwise they will die. They need to have something to hook people into
their sales and marketing spiral, and SE is the perfect "freebie".
I mean, really?? Is the word "customer oriented" not popular anymore? Is
"shareholder oriented" the game of the day?
Blah.
We have the people.
We have the technology.
We have the vision.
We have the ideas.
And for each day each of these grow stronger, almost exponentially.
regards,
Rickard
ps oh, almost forgot </flamebait>. Fire away 8-)
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