Here's a follow-on question to the reflector...

Vernon's set-up brings a question to mind.  He says he's using a 4:1 balun on 
his vertical.  At first brush that seems counterintuitive, doesn't it?  Isn't a 
vertical unbalanced?  Certainly the coax is unbalanced.  When you're mating an 
unbalanced feedline with an unbalanced antenna, wouldn't one be better off 
using an unun rather than a 4:1 balun?

In further support of my line of questioning, I've read numerous, albeit 
anecdotal, reports of people being displeased with the performance of their 
vertical, particularly the untuned ones like Zero-Five for example. But when 
they add an unun they are then amazed at how the antenna allegedly "sprung to 
life."

73,
Dave  AH6TD

On Mar 8, 2011, at 6:20 AM, Vernon Mauery wrote:

> Yes.  I can see the S-meter go from 3-4 down with static down to
> nothing with quieter static.  My best guess is that I am not trying
> the right times at the right places.
> 
> Thanks to everyone for the help.
> 
> --Vernon N7OH
> 
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Ross Primrose N4RP <n...@aiko.com> wrote:
>> Does the received noise decrease when you disconnect the antenna?
>> 
>> 73, Ross N4RP
>> 
>> On 3/8/2011 1:06 AM, Vernon Mauery wrote:
>>> At the risk of exposing what a n00b I am when it comes to HF, I really
>>> need some help.  I recently (last month) purchased a K3.  First HF
>>> radio I have owned.  I got my license 2 years ago and have spent most
>>> of the time since playing with VHF.  I have been trying to teach
>>> myself CW and decided that it was time to step into the HF waters.  I
>>> studied, ogled, and dreamed of my ideal HF transceiver.  I finally
>>> found the K3 and having looked (at least a cursory glance) at all the
>>> others, I was sold.  I saved my pennies and purchased.  I also got
>>> myself a 43' untuned vertical antenna, balun, and radial wires.
>>> 
>>> My setup: K3/100 has 100 feet of low loss 400 coax out to the 43 foot
>>> vertical on the hill in my back yard.  It has 8 25 foot radials and a
>>> 4:1 balun.  The K3 has the KATU3, KPA3, KTCXO3-1, KFL3A-400, and
>>> default 2.8KHz filters.  I assembled it and did followed the
>>> calibration instructions as well as I could.  I think I got
>>> everything, but obviously I missed something.  Or maybe I just need an
>>> elmer to tell me what to do.
>>> 
>>> I cannot seem to find any signals that make the S meter go above a 3
>>> or 4.  I have the RF gain turned up a fair ways (mostly to the top),
>>> and I can hear static.  As I tune up some of the bands on SSB, I can
>>> hear a tone that changes higher in pitch as I tune up in frequency.  I
>>> have tried listening for CW, but I am hearing nothing as I scan
>>> through the bands.  I had a 10m horizontal dipole taped to my wall for
>>> a while until I found time to run the coax out to the back yard.  I
>>> had hoped that since it was resonant on the 10m band, maybe it would
>>> be able to pick up something, but it was no better (or worse) than my
>>> vertical.
>>> 
>>> As far as I can tell, the radio seems to transmit.  I can see the
>>> power meter moving and the SWR meter moving.  The ATU seems to be able
>>> to find acceptable settings on most of the bands with the vertical.
>>> But I can't hear them.  You can't work them if you can't hear them,
>>> right?
>>> 
>>> This is a desperate plea for help.  Is it the radio or me?  Please
>>> have pity on the n00b and walk me through my first HF contact.
>>> 
>>> --Vernon N7OH
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