That is what I wanted to hear, I bought teh K3 because of the filters... I am glad to see someone saying something positive them! THANK YOU! -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 11:04 -0700, Andy Faber wrote: > David, > As a long time user of Pro2s (I have one at home, along with a 7600, plus > two on Aruba at P49Y) and K3s (one at home and one on Aruba), both radios > have many nice attributes. The intuitive interface on the Pro2 is a plus, > and I find it very easy to use in casual operating. The small size and many > nifty features of the K3 make it my preferred rig. The one place where I > notice a big difference is in CW contesting. I have done many CW contests > in SO2R mode with the K3 and either a Pro2 or the 7600 as the second radio. > On CW, the K3 is truly amazing. The roofing filters make you think you are > the only guy on the band (unless someone nearby has key clicks that actually > extend into your passband). With the Icoms, by contrast, you hear all sorts > of weird digital artifacts in the passband as a result (I think) of IMD and > mixing up nearby signals. The result is that your frequency doesn't sound > like a clear freq, even if it rally is so. This is not evident in casual > contesting, but on CW in a crowded band I definitely hear the difference > when switching between the radios. But a good Pro2 or 3 is a very > cost-effective choice. > 73, andy ae6y > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "David Cole" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:20 AM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] David Cole...756ProIII vs K3 > > > Hi Fred, > > I only trust exact apples to apples comparisons... > > > > A few miles can make a bit difference in props. I will do an A/B with > > my Pro3, using everything the same, antenna, feedline, etc. I will keep > > the rig that performs better. > > > > I have an interesting mix of conditions... 20 is very quiet and has > > almost no noise on it, while 40 is filled with QRM. It will be > > interesting to see what happens. > > > > -- > > Thanks and 73's, > > For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: > > www.nk7z.net > > for MixW support see; > > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info > > for Dopplergram information see: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info > > for MM-SSTV see: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info > > > > > > On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 10:47 -0500, Fred Smith wrote: > >> I have a newer Icom here and might have to debate the receiver issue and > >> I'm > >> half deaf. The Icom does have both CW and SSB filters/D-Star in it but > >> when > >> it comes to weak signal the K3 is superior as is the KX3. But don't get > >> me > >> wrong my IC-9100 is going nowhere as there is nothing on the market to > >> replace it. > >> > >> A close friend K0AZ Mike has all 3 radios K2/K3/KX3/PRO-III to compare. I > >> personally have listened to some weak signals here at home and at Mikes > >> (20 > >> mi from me) on the phone several times using a FTDX-5000MP/K3/IC-9100. We > >> both have similar antennas Mosley's at 55' all bands 10-40m. At times not > >> all but sometimes I have heard the PRO-III pick up signals that I could > >> not > >> hear and Mike had problems with his K3. > >> > >> I hate to speak in generalities but some days different things just work > >> radios and antennas both. I have had the pleasure of owning a few nice > >> radios several at the top of the list FTDX-5000MP/K3/KX3 for the newer > >> radios and some way down the list I enjoyed most all of them except for a > >> very few. I've thinned the herd quite a bit and kept 1 K2/K3/KX3/IC-9100 > >> and > >> a bunch of mobiles and HT's. > >> > >> I think the main thing is to just enjoy and use whatever you have, it’s a > >> hobby after all. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Sanders > >> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 7:45 AM > >> To: 'Tom Fitzgerald'; [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] David Cole...756ProIII vs K3 > >> > >> I agree with Tom. I had a PROIII and then the K3. Both of these radios > >> are > >> here for the duration. As Tom says my K3 cost over twice what the PROIII > >> does especially including the P3/SVGA. However I always said I thought > >> the > >> PROIII was the best bang for buck buy in ham radio these days. I can find > >> strengths in both radios over the other. So I am lucky to have both in > >> front > >> of me. The truth is I am still learning good things about both of these > >> rigs > >> every day. > >> Elecrafts track record on support tells me they will be with me and my > >> K3 for a long time. This is a huge value consideration over other makers. > >> I think Elecraft is pretty unique in that regard and this reflector is > >> another factor in choice. > >> It is a tough call if money is no object but if money is a factor (Isn't > >> it > >> always?) a good used PROIII is a good choice in my opinion. I bought mine > >> new on a special special Dayton weekend some years back and paid 2.2k for > >> it > >> NIB from a major seller. This was just before they closed them out. > >> If it is a new country the K3 gets the call every time. GL es 73 > >> > >> KØAZ > >> Mike Sanders > >> EM37cd SW Missouri > >> www.k0az.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Fitzgerald > >> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 11:29 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: [Elecraft] David Cole...756ProIII vs K3 > >> > >> > "Can anyone point me at some resources to better understand why I want > >> > a K3, as opposed to keeping my Icom 756 Pro III?" > >> > >> My advice...keep the ProIII & buy a K3 too...that's what I did. When the > >> K3 > >> first came out, there was a waiting list to get one. I'm not one to wait > >> on > >> much of anything I want to buy and so I bought a ProIII instead. I love > >> my > >> ProIII and decided it was probably the smart move reasoning that the K3 > >> would likely have several (or more) "issues" & changes as time went by. > >> The > >> ProIII was fairly well refined by that point in time & it turned out that > >> I > >> was correct about the K3. I may get some static for this but I think both > >> radios are pretty close in performance...at least as judged by my "human" > >> ear. I filled all the slots in the K3 with the various 8 pole Inrad > >> filters > >> too. I like both radios just fine and would have very much regretted > >> selling > >> my ProIII. My K3 is a mid 3K serial number which I spent about $3K on and > >> that was well before the price increases. The ProIII has been > >> discontinued > >> (obviously) by Icom now but...back in the day...I think you got more bang > >> for your buck w ith the Icom. Again, my 2cents...don't sell it, you WILL > >> regret it. Sorry about the SUPER late reply to your original post...I get > >> so > >> much "stuff" in my inbox that it's taken me this long to catch up! > >> > >> Tom, KD0BCF > >> > >> "Two possibilities exist... > >> Either we are alone in the universe or we are not. > >> Both are equally terrifying." > >> > >> Arthur C. 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