Milverton, Respectfully, your reply does not answer the question-- is there really a need for ESSB?
Your answer merely introduces a totally different argument into this discussion, (the legal argument), while using my question as a launching point for a subject change. I am not asking about if it is legal, I am asking why do it at all? Is this really to use an ESSB supporters own words, "...other hams having fun..."? The legal issue will sort itself out. If ESSB does not have it's own emission definition, (one accepted by the FCC), and is classed with SSB, then it is not legal. This conclusion on my part is based on Part 97.307(a), again, this assumes that ESSB and SSB have the same emission designation as per the FCC. -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Sun, 2014-04-27 at 17:42 -0700, tnny...@yahoo.com wrote: > >>>> This issue is not just about "...other hams having fun doing what > they > want to do with their K3s", there really are some good engineering > reasons for not using ESSB below 100 MHz. Joe has articulated a few. > Beyond the "...other hams having fun..." argument, is there really any > other reason to do ESSB? <<<< > > David, et al. > > The question of " Legality " and Engineering reasoning has been > bantered around > on numerous different occasions. > There are many in their zeal to defend their ideals will make > frivolous statements on > what should or should not be the accepted TBW. > Irrespective of what some of us may think, there are no set number on > TBW for SSB. > > For those who are about to get their under wears in a wad, here are > the FCC view on the > subject a define bandwidth on Phone. > > http://www.nu9n.com/images/FCC-DA-04-3661A1-final.pdf > > There are many of us who often times forget that this is a HOBBY for > Amateurs. > > ((((73)))) Milverton. > > > On Sunday, April 27, 2014 7:04 PM, David Cole <d...@nk7z.net> wrote: > > Larry, > Respectfully, I have to disagree with you here... I built a > state of > the art fully digital audio studio for movie studio use three > years ago, > so I would fall into the "Audio Guys" group... > > I really do think ESSB sounds cool, and the audio person in me > likes to > hear it, but the engineer in me thinks the ham bands are just > the wrong > place for it. At least below 100 MHz. > > This issue is not just about "...other hams having fun doing > what they > want to do with their K3s", there really are some good > engineering > reasons for not using ESSB below 100 MHz. Joe has articulated > a few. > Beyond the "...other hams having fun..." argument, is there > really any > other reason to do ESSB? > > -- > Thanks and 73's, > For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: > www.nk7z.net > for MixW support see; > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info > for Dopplergram information see: > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info > for MM-SSTV see: > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info > > > On Sun, 2014-04-27 at 21:41 +0000, Larry Wassmann wrote: > > I am sorry now that I asked what I thought was a reasonable > question. Looking for some help. But I guess most just wanted > to vent their particular bias and dislike for other hams > having fun doing what they want to do with their K3s. Why does > Elecraft offer what they call a ESSB filter? Why do almost all > new rigs come with EQs now? Do you think any of us audio guys > had any influence? True thanks for those who sent me mail > giving me real help and not just bash me and other who enjoy > sounding like men not some little girl with her panties too > tight. > > > > > > 73 OZ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > Larry Martus Wassmann > > Non omnis moriar > > (Not all of me will die) - - - The good I do will live > forever. > > > > www.w3oz.com > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to tnny...@yahoo.com > > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
