Milverton, Again, respectfully I submit that you are trying to shift the subject off of ESSB, to anywhere else now.
Joe is not talking about Contesting, he is talking about ESSB. -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Sun, 2014-04-27 at 18:39 -0700, Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft wrote: > >>>> willful > use of a bandwidth in excess of 2.8 KHz can *still* be considered a > violation in conjunction with other conditions - particularly > interference, splatter, distortion, IMD, etc. <<<< > > NOW!!!!! > You have just Describe 98% of those who proclaim their love of Contesting! > > [particularly! > interference, splatter, distortion, IMD, etc.] > > BTW. > Aggressive use of Compression (PUNCH) > Overly active ALC. > And! Last but not the least, chronic twisting of the mic gain knob > to the right is tantamount of the above mention. > > Maybe, we should just include the Contester in this tantivy as well. > > > > ((((73)))) Milverton. / W9MMS > > > On Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:09 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <li...@subich.com> > wrote: > > > >On the other hand, Title 47 which includes more than Part 97 regularly > >defines SSB as 2K80J3E (2.8 KHz bandwidth) and specifies a maximum > >modulating frequency of 2.8 KHz for various FM voice "communications" > >services. > > > >Given that standard, and the fact that RM-10740 was dismissed without > >modifying the rule that requires the use of minimum bandwidth, without > >modifying the rules against intentional interference, and without > >modifying the rule that requires "good engineering practice," willful > >use of a bandwidth in excess of 2.8 KHz can *still* be considered a > >violation in conjunction with other conditions - particularly > >interference, splatter, distortion, IMD, etc. > > > >73, > > > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > > > > > >On 4/27/2014 8:42 PM, Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft wrote: > >>>>>> This issue is not just about "...other hams having fun doing what they > >> want to do with their K3s", there really are some good engineering > >> reasons for not using ESSB below 100 MHz. Joe has articulated a few. > >> Beyond the "...other hams having fun..." argument, is there really any > >> other reason to do ESSB? <<<< > >> > >> David, et al. > >> > >> The question of " Legality " and Engineering reasoning has been bantered > >> around > >> on numerous different occasions. > >> There are many in their zeal to defend their ideals will make frivolous > >> statements on > >> what should or should not be the accepted TBW. > >> Irrespective of what some of us may think, there are no set number on TBW > >> for SSB. > >> > >> For those who are about to get their under wears in a wad, here are the > >> FCC view on the > >> subject a define bandwidth on Phone. > >> > >> http://www.nu9n.com/images/FCC-DA-04-3661A1-final.pdf > >> > >> There are many of us who often times forget that this is a HOBBY for > >> Amateurs. > >> > >> ((((73)))) Milverton. > >> > >> > >______________________________________________________________ > >Elecraft mailing list > >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >Message delivered to tnny...@yahoo.com > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com