Thanks for all the feedback.  I’ll look at the pdf 2nd version first!

Robie

> On Apr 8, 2018, at 11:13, donov...@starpower.net wrote:
> 
> 
> The current Third Edition is available in used but like new condition for 
> $56.50 with free shipping at: 
> 
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0521809266/ref=tmm_hrd_used_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=used&qid=&sr=
>  
> 
> 
> The Second Edition is available for free as a pdf at: 
> 
> 
> https://ia801605.us.archive.org/14/items/TheArtOfElectronics-2ndEdition/the-art-of-electronics.pdf
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> 
> 
> 73 
> Frank 
> W3LPL 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "Mike Markowski" <mike.ab...@gmail.com> 
> To: "Robie Elms" <rule...@gmail.com> 
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
> Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 3:42:39 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics 
> 
> Robie, 
> 
> I don't have all editions to compare, but think newest is usually best. 
> Maybe others know better? The book is an intro, though very detailed!, 
> and doesn't cover much in the way of RF to my recollection. It would be 
> a foundation that makes RF design easy to follow, though. 
> 
> Others might have better recommendations for ham-specific books. But if 
> you leaf through something like ARRL's "Introduction to Radio Frequency 
> Design," you'll probably get more from it after a book like Art of Elec. 
> 
> 73, 
> Mike ab3ap 
> 
>> On 04/08/2018 11:28 AM, Robie Elms wrote: 
>> Which edition is the most useful for hams? 
>> 
>> Robie AJ4F 
>> 
>>> On Apr 8, 2018, at 10:14, Mike Markowski <mike.ab...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Chuck and all, 
>>> 
>>> It really is a great book, the best I've found on the topic for my 
>>> style of learning. I really like math but also need concrete 
>>> examples. I like their approach of "here's how we might approach 
>>> this," leading to shortcomings, to how to improve, etc. Very 
>>> methodical rather than jumping straight into the best solution 
>>> without knowing where the model came from. 
>>> 
>>> In general, I find electronics learning - or really, learning 
>>> anything - to be iterative. I'd take the math class, then the EE 
>>> and understand some. As more math or EE clicked I'd understand the 
>>> other a little better. And so on. At long last, I'm ready to 
>>> compete with those kids who skated through university 
>>> effortlessly...as retirement is only a decade away! Better late 
>>> than never. :-) 
>>> 
>>> 73, Mike ab3ap 
>>> 
>>>> On 04/07/2018 07:17 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote: That’s a 
>>>> great book, “The Art of Electronics”. Horowitz and Hill, Harvard 
>>>> and Rowland institute for Science. Interesting about the math. I 
>>>> learned the math, though, in EE courses and found that to be a 
>>>> plus. Math with an application. Seemed like I was always taking 
>>>> the math course after I learned the math the semester before in 
>>>> an EE course. Anyway, I bought the book when I was already on the 
>>>> job and it was a great source of ideas and understanding. Chuck 
>>>> KE9UW 
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