On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 03:24:37 +0100 Raph Frank wrote:
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:51 AM, Dave Ketchum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The idea of having a Condorcet party is to gradually transform Plurality
elections into Condorcet elections.

Disturbing existing elections by marrying in something from Condorcet seems
very destructive considering possible benefits, so how about:
   Run a phantom Condorcet election with current candidates before the
existing voting.


Right that is what I was thinking.  It was that a party would hold a
condorcet primary.

This phantom election would be run by the Condorcet promoters WITHOUT marrying it in to the regular election - its purpose is to encourage thought about Condorcet WITHOUT the thousand headaches that marriage would produce. It would likely do better as a phantom election than as a phantom primary.

Candidates can drop out if they choose:
   Third party candidates have little to lose.
   Major party candidates risk static as to why they did not dare.


Also, I wonder if they could be put on the ballot anyway.  Would that be legal?

Permitting dropouts is less destructive than demanding unwilling participation.

BTW - write-ins SHOULD be permitted, as would be in a proper election.

Those who choose to, vote via internet.


This generates massive participation biases.  You need some way to
cancel them out.

Tolerating and admitting, without attempts at cancellation of bias, sounds best to me - we are doing a demonstration rather than a true election.

Do need defense against one voter submitting multiple ballots - needs thought.

Thus we have ballots to count and report on as a sort of poll.


The trick is to make it so that voters don't just see it as another poll.

We are getting voters to practice doing Condorcet voting - should matter little that the results are a poll rather than claiming the right to be counted as true electing.
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