Good Morning, Kristofer

re: "... would be good for the petition to include information
     about the level of the person who originated it."

My initial reaction to this suggestion was unfavorable, oddly, for the very reason you thought it worthwhile; fear that petitions coming from the lower levels of the 'pyramid' would be considered less important. On further thought, though, I agree with you. As you point out, it is likely the distribution of petitions will be simplified by including the petitioner's level. In addition, those who rose to higher levels were deemed more representative of the views of their peers than those at lower levels. It is reasonable to give their opinions greater weight. One additional factor is that it may aid discourse among those who met to make selections.


re: "The assumption here is that if someone high up in the
     pyramid petitions the official, he has the support of many
     below him."

I agree this is a reasonable assumption in terms of how an elected official initially evaluates a petition. However, the ease with which constituents may support or oppose petitions provides a means of confirming the assumption. Since it is easy for constituents to support or oppose a petition, official performance will be better judged by actual support than by implied support.

Beyond performance evaluation, though, is the impact of petitions on an official's biases. Petitions represent ideas and convictions. They may counter ideas and convictions held by the elected official or reinforce them. They may achieve merit on the breadth of their support or on the force of their reason. Thus, the bidirectionality of the system not only provides a means of sanctioning, it also serves to influence elected officials' attitudes. As you've pointed out, when participants move to higher levels they can not represent all the views of all the people who elevated them. Petitions provide a means of energizing views which are commonly held but which are 'lost in transit', so to speak.


re: "... the pyramids exist ... and their composition is known to
     (at least) the public officials ..."

In my view, the composition of the pyramids and all petitions should be public information. It is true this will make those who achieve the higher levels targets for influence peddlers but I don't believe such corruption will be as easy to achieve as it is at present. Here's why:

Our political landscape is dominated by political parties and political parties are conduits for corruption. Corruption occurs in static conditions and party professionals are like apples in barrels, susceptible to rot. The Practical Democracy electoral method is dynamic; is has no organization or fund raiser to provide a corrupting influence. Those who would corrupt our elected representatives can not do so en bloc, as they do with parties, they have to corrupt each elected official, individually.

There is an enormous difference between telling a party fund-raiser what laws you want in return for your 'contribution' and trying to corrupt individuals who have no need of campaign funds and who are selected by their peers for their intellect and integrity. In addition to the risk of exposure, which is always a threat when approaching a target, there's the problem of effectiveness; corrupting a single official does not ensure enactment of a law in the way contributing to a party does. This method may not completely forestall corruption, but it will certainly make it more difficult and less effective than it is now.


re: "My broad idea is that since the pyramid is exponential in
     nature, with a fixed chance of petition from each at the
     bottom, the number of petitions would increase exponentially
     as well, and so in order to sift through the mass, there has
     to be some sort of method for finding what's truly
     important, some sort of information aggregation and
     selection."

The constituents' ability to support or oppose petitions will probably have two effects:

1) It will increase public participation because those who would be unlikely to 'write a letter to their Congressman' may (and, in my view, probably will) support or oppose the petitions of others ... if it's easy to do so.

2) It will reduce the number of petitions because those who are likely to 'write a letter to their Congressman' may find that someone else has already done so. Of course, in this case, pride of authorship may inspire parallel petitions, and that could lead to the murky waters of petition amendment. I'll pass on examining that eventuality, for the moment.

Are statistics available to show how frequently citizens 'write their Congressmen' and can that data can be extrapolated to guesstimate the severity of the problem? I'm not sure how helpful that will be, though, because events may cause a flurry of petitions that can not be anticipated.


re: turnover of elected officials

This is not directly responsive to your letter, but I'd like to mention that one of the provisions of the Sefton Petition is that "the random grouping mechanism must insure that no two people are assigned to a triad if they served together in a triad in any of the five most recent elections. This provision not only makes it unlikely that a given individual will be returned to office repeatedly, it also ensures the ideologies of our elected officials are constantly refreshed.

In two-party systems, particularly, there is a periodic wrenching from one side of the political spectrum to another. Neither side ever correctly reflects the true will of the people (which is, of course, the feedstock for the demand for additional parties and proportional representation). The method we are discussing will elevate those who best reflect the attitudes and aspirations of all the people. They will create a government that moves inexorably in response to the people's wishes.

Fred
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