James Gilmour wrote:
Kevin Venzke  > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:49 PM
The reason I believe LNHarm is more valuable than monotonicity is that when a method fails LNHarm, the voter is more likely to realize in what insincere way to vote differently, in order to compensate. When a method fails monotonicity, a voter will rarely know to do anything differently because of it.

LNH is important to ordinary electors, as I have explained in a
recent  post, at least where the voting system is susceptible to LNH
effects. If the vote counting method is not LNH-compliant, electors
are likely to vote strategically in an attempt to avoid or
mitigate the effects of LNH-failure or to try to gain some real or
imagined advantage from its effects.

Monotonicity, or more specifically, the lack of monotonicity, is of
no  importance whatsoever in public elections because neither
candidates nor voters can exploit it. It would be "nice" if the vote
counting system were monotonic, but we cannot have
monotonicity AND some of the other criteria we consider desirable.
For  example, monotonicity and later-no-harm are incompatible in
IRV and STV-PR. Of the two, LNH is important - non-monotonicity is
irrelevant.

We can't have both LNHs, mutual majority, and monotonicity (by Woodall). FPTP has LNH* (simply because later choices are ignored) and monotonicity. IRV has LNH* and mutual majority, but not monotonicity.

I'd say that IRV's monotonicity problem is indeed a problem, because it's so pervasive. Just look at Yee diagrams. On the other hand, I'm not unbiased, and so I may be saying that because it's "unaesthetic".

In any case, it may be possible to have one of the LNHs and be monotonic and have mutual majority. I'm not sure, but perhaps (doesn't one of DAC or DSC do this?). If so, it would be possible to see (at least) whether people strategize in the direction of early truncation by looking at methods that fail LNHarm but pass LNHelp; that is, Bucklin. Was bullet voting pervasive under Bucklin?

Unfortunately, no method that passes only LNHarm has been used, so we can't do the same there (to see if there was pervasive random filling in that case).

We can stil get some idea of how easily voters would strategize by looking at Bucklin, though; or for that matter, at ranked voting methods that fail both LNHs. Schulze's used in some technical associations (Debian, Wikimedia), and, although I don't have raw voting data, they seem to be mostly honest. The Wikimedia election had no Condorcet cycles down to the sixth place, for instance.

James Gilmour
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