On Mar 4, 2010, at 1:04 AM, robert bristow-johnson wrote:
On Mar 3, 2010, at 9:13 PM, Dave Ketchum wrote:

Actually, a chance to move ahead, if we grab it.

IRV lost, and good riddance.

well, i believe the chance to move ahead in Burlington is lost for at least a generation.

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so, i'm for Condorcet too. i am sorta agnostic about what to do about a cycle (because i really doubt it will happen at all often in reality) as long as it's a sensible resolution (Shulze would be okay if it was easy for a layman to understand, so probably Ranked Pairs is the simplest, but i might just say give it to the Plurality winner in the Smith set to toss the IRV haters a bone).

Let me try making it reasonably simple - perhaps better to not get too fancy - make it understandable to the public but leave gory details for formal definition.

Ranked Pairs is reasonable as best base. Every pair of candidates, including those that involve write-ins, gets counted (and, unlike for IRV, equal ranking is permitted).

If one candidate wins every one of its pairs, it is the winner - the CW. These are common for, in most elections, the top one or two candidates are far ahead of the rest and the one, or best of two, wins.

Else we have a cycle of three or more members, such as A>B>C>A, due to differing opinions: Each cycle member, if the only such running, would be CW over those outside. The pairs that define the cycle have varying margins between their stronger and weaker member. By canceling the weakest of these the stronger remain to define the winner.

Bringing Plurality in would be a distraction, since we have no need to go near this method and risk a worse answer. Further, our calculating has not necessarily identified which cycle member would win this (though my method of doing the N*N matrix does provide this).

BTW - we should not discourage bullet voting - we should NOT encourage voters to go beyond their desires, doing what is really nonsense ranking.

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