On Mar 5, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Dave Ketchum wrote:
On Mar 4, 2010, at 1:04 AM, robert bristow-johnson wrote:
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so, i'm for Condorcet too. i am sorta agnostic about what to do
about a cycle (because i really doubt it will happen at all often
in reality) as long as it's a sensible resolution (Shulze would be
okay if it was easy for a layman to understand, so probably Ranked
Pairs is the simplest, but i might just say give it to the
Plurality winner in the Smith set to toss the IRV haters a bone).
...
i like Ranked Pairs best, too. and if the Smith Set are three
candidates, it and Shulze pick the same winner.
Bringing Plurality in would be a distraction, since we have no need
to go near this method and risk a worse answer.
it's a "worse answer" in a weird circumstance where an argument could
be made that any in the Smith set have some reasonable claim or
legitimacy to be elected. why not the guy with the most votes?
Further, our calculating has not necessarily identified which
cycle member would win this (though my method of doing the N*N
matrix does provide this).
BTW - we should not discourage bullet voting - we should NOT
encourage voters to go beyond their desires, doing what is really
nonsense ranking.
i don't think Condorcet encourages bullet voting at all.
but i *do* think that Approval *does* suggest the possibility of
bullet voting. even though we're limited to 6 in my county, the
weird way that the Vermont State Senate is elected is that all state
senators are elected at large in your county. so then more populous
counties have more state senators than smaller ones (they all get at
least 1). anyway, we vote for up to six out of a zillion candidates
since each party proffers 6 candidates, we have Progs and Greens, and
there are independents. the six candidates with the most votes are
elected. what if there is one, maybe two candidates that you really
think should be elected? i almost never vote for all 6. usually
just 2. but it's a strategic vote. and since i didn't hit the
limit, it's practically no different than Approval voting. i cannot
see how Warren and company claim that it's less strategic than
Condorcet.
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