On Wednesday, October 2, 2002, at 02:17 PM, Chip Scheide wrote: >>> Additionally - there would be no need for a 'toolbar' had apple left >>> the 'Apple menu' alone. As it provided EXACTLY this functionality >> >> No, they do completely different things--For instance, the tool bar in >> the window I'm writing this email contains a send button, a button >> that >> toggles between reply and reply-to-all, an attachment button, a fonts >> button, a colors button, an address-book button, and a save-as-draft >> button. None of those buttons are in the Apple menu of any version of >> the Mac OS. > while that is correct - they are not in the apple menu, and this would > not be the place for them. As hese functions are specific to the > application you are using.
And that is what the tool bar is for. > HOWEVER all of the functionallity of the toolbar buttons you have > setup are *already* in the application's prmary menubar!!!! And they > are probably more eaily accessable via key commands than a mouse > anyway. Not if I have my hand on the mouse. I can see them on the tool bar, and don't have to try to remember which menu they're in--and I don't have to take my hand off the mouse to type the command-key. > The functionallity of the toolbar buttons - *should be* in the > (application's) primary menubar, and in all cases I have seen - does > not > mean that there are not cases i have not seen - this is, indeed, the > case. There is no such thing as an application's primary menu bar; each application has one menu bar. There is no such thing as a primary menu within the menu bar either. > again - winblows viloates this tenate of UI, with the (identical) > menubar > inserted into every window. in the MS case this violation is more > agreegious(sp?) since unlike th etoolbar the menubar in every window > can > not be turned off. The tool bar is nothing like a menu bar. We're not human beings having a spiritual experience. We're spiritual beings having a human experience. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe send a mail message with a SUBJECT line of "unsubscribe" to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
