This is only a little OT, but...  If the modern kernels work out of the box on
the Cortex-A8, then maybe real-time preemptive would work until RTAI has a
port ready.  IIRC, RT preemtion was running ~10us compared to ~4us on the same
hardware.  Those tests though are a few years old, so it might be better now.
 It would also be useful for RT applications which do not have as tight a
tolerance.

  EBo --

Matt Shaver <m...@mattshaver.com> said:

> Taking this info into account, I'll get this board shipped to you
> tomorrow! Dale made a nice level translator circuit to go from the
> beagle's 3.3v i/o port to a 5v parallel port pinout, which I'll send
> with the board. Also, I got an 8g sd card I'll send too that has debian
> on it and a running EMC, albeit with no real time kernel.
> 
> Thanks,
> Matt
> 
> On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 20:19 -0500, Jon Elson wrote:
> > Matt Shaver wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 12:55 -0500, Jon Elson wrote:
> > >   
> > >> Ahh, some new news!  Torsten Koschorrek, the rtai ARM maintainer, has 
> > >> volunteered to do an rtai port for the Cortex-A8!
> > >> But, he is tied up right now, and won't be able to dig into it until 
> > >> next month.  Still, that actually sounds pretty good, could be a LOT 
> > >> faster to have an expert working on it than the opposite - like me.  So, 
> > >> there are two possible paths, here :
> > >>
> > >> One is to have rtai, but they seem to be stuck with a 2.6.20 kernel, 
> > >> which sounds awfully old.  I wouldn't be surprised to find there is NO 
> > >> Beagle Board kernel that old.
> > >>     
> > >
> > > I haven't shipped the Beagle Board to you yet (general
> > > procrastination/laziness/distractions, etc.). Should I send it to this
> > > other guy instead? It sounds like, from this:
> > >
> > > http://mail.rtai.org/pipermail/rtai/2009-August/021925.html
> > >
> > > that their main holdup is hardware to work with.
> > >
> > >   
> > I'm not sure.  There are now two people expressing interest, both out of 
> > the US, I think.  Torsten is not going to have time to dig in
> > for a little bit.  And, I'm not too sure of the other guy's abilities or 
> > dedication to this project.  Somebody not real familiar with the 
> > internals of
> > RTAI would find this a hard project to dive right into, I would think.  
> > Meanwhile, I might get one running in user mode to start developing a
> > parallel port emulator (mostly a bidirectional 8-bit port with 1.8 - 5 V 
> > logic level conversion and a little wrapper code to make it look as close
> > to the PC parallel port as I can.)  I really can't even begin to look at 
> > interfacing EMC2 to anything until I have a parallel port of some sort 
> > to work with.
> > 
> > >> Another is to use the just-developed rt-linux patch from France to the 
> > >> 2.6.29 kernel.  But, I don't know if there are any problems with using 
> > >> rt-linux.  I gather we haven't used rt-linux for some years, now.  I 
> > >> seem to recall there was extremely primitive support for printing 
> > >> messages and such from the kernel space.
> > >>     
> > >
> > > Is this a patch for the ARM arch? If so, it might be a quicker way to
> > > go, assuming the rtlib support for rtlinux still works.
> > >   
> > Yeah, that was the question I asked a couple days ago.  I don't think 
> > anyone has used the rtlib stuff in a LONG time.
> > The patch is for a 2.6.29 kernel on the Beagle Board, specifically!
> > 
> > So, you had some version of Ubuntu running on the Beagle?  How big an SD 
> > / MMC card did you get?  Looking around, pretty much the largest MMC 
> > card I could find was 2 GB, is that enough for Ubuntu and EMC2?  Also, 
> > there are several flavors of memory cards supported, are there 
> > performance differences in these?  Compared to modern hard drives, these 
> > things look like they might have mediocre performance, like 20 
> > mbits/second transfer rates.  I didn't even realize these things were 
> > either 1 or 4 bits serial.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Jon
> 
> 
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