On Friday 07 June 2013 11:05:27 Kent A. Reed did opine:

> On 6/7/2013 4:09 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 07 June 2013 02:10:00 Kent Reed did opine:
> >> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Gene Heskett <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> >>> Greetings Guys;
> >>> 
> >>> Someone mentioned that rockhopper can make .pdf
> >>> s somehow, and those of coarse can be scaled.
> >>> 
> >>> Since I now own an HL3170CDW color laser printer, what steps does it
> >>> take to do this, blowing my lathe .hal file up into at least a 6
> >>> page output? _
> >> 
> >> You can use the ImageMagick suite (available through the Synaptic
> >> Package Manager) to create a bunch of image files of the right size
> >> out of the original SVG image:
> >> 
> >> convert -crop 594x774 halgraph.svg halgraph-%d.png
> >> 
> >> <...>
> >> As a matter of curiousity, what is the width and height information
> >> in your halgraph.svg file? I suppose if it's big enough, convert
> >> could choke.
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> Kent
> > 
> > viewBox="0.00 0.00 3542.00 1505.00"
> > 
> > So,
> > convert -crop 594x774 halgraph.svg halgraph-%d.png
> > 
> > Then;
> > lpr -PHL3170CDW halgraph-*.png
> > 
> > And I got 12 pages too.
> 
> Hmmm. 3542pt x 1505pt is 49.2in x 20.9in. That's 12 letter-sized sheets.
> Check.
> 
> > ...But something scaled it down from 72dpi to about
> > 130 so the usable image per page was only 4.65" wide, so I had a lot
> > of
> 
> lpr has to call some helper function to render the png. Off hand, I
> don't know what that function is.

Neither do I.  htop might show it fleetingly, if I was smart enough to look 
that is :(

> I chose instead to load and print the
> images from a graphics viewer so I could have more control over the
> process. As in so much of Linux, "there's more than one way to do that."

Yep, as that old saw about skinning cats goes.
 
> By the way, convert (really the entire ImageMagick suite) is the
> proverbial Swiss Army knife. It offers a bazillion options including
> "-gravity" with which one can choose from which edges it lays out the
> cropping tiles. By default, it lays out from the top left to the bottom
> right, but you can force it to lay out differently. It may sound
> paradoxical, but I find there's too much yet too little ImageMagick
> documentation available on-line.
> 
> Since I no longer have my own sheet/roll-feed wide-format
> printer/plotter like I did at NIST, I plan to use the local FedEx Office
> (aka Kinko's) to plot anything really complicated the same way I use
> them to print huge manuals. I realize "local" has a different
> connotation for you but since FedEx now owns the whole enchilada I'm
> sure you could ship the print job to some shop electronically and have
> the result shipped back physically. See their website. Scissors and
> pastepot work grows old in a hurry.

True, but the nearest kinko's is probably Pittsburgh, 150+ miles north of 
here.  I don't think there is one in Charleston, 100 miles south.  I truly 
am out in the country in that regard.
 
> > <...>
> > So, I have something that while a bit fragile, does show what I have
> > carved up in that file.  Complex for a machine with two axis's and a
> > servo controlled spindle plus an electrical probe kit for home all
> > use.  But if I have any dead ends, they aren't shown because
> > rockhopper ignores "wires" that aren't connected on both ends.  That
> > "trash removal" could be a disadvantage as that was one of the things
> > I wanted to be able to check quickly.
> 
> I confronted similar issues when I was visualizing HAL configurations
> with Graphviz, although I started with the static .hal file instead of
> the HAL data in working memory. In graphs, there is a fundamental
> difference between the nodes and the edges connecting them, with a focus
> on the nodes. I chose to represent signals as edges in Graphviz, so I
> had to create phantom Graphviz nodes to represent "dead ends", else the
> offending signal disappeared from the graph. I haven't looked closely at
> the Rockhopper approach to see how they handle "dead ends" but the
> information is available to them in the HAL signal table. The situation
> should be easier for them to deal with than it was for me because they
> chose to represent signals as Graphviz nodes also (with a different
> presentation style, of course). A signal with a dead end would be
> presented as a signal-node box with only one connecting line.
> 
> In any case, what you are talking about is what the process and piping
> industry calls "free ends" analysis which they perform to ensure the
> integrity of a complicated piping-system design. I'd think it would be
> much easier to write a script to find single-ended signals than to stare
> at a drawing of any scale hoping to notice the visual equivalent of the
> dog that didn't bark in the night (or should that be the sound of one
> hand clapping?).
> 
> Glad ImageMagick was useful.

Very.  I had wondered about it, but had no real clue how to start the 
process.
 
> As for the missus, our situation continues to degrade. Even with the
> stairlift I installed in February, it got to be too much getting to/from
> the upstairs bedroom. Over the last three weeks, I've turned our living
> room into a mini-nursing home. Hospital bed, Hoyer lift, ramp out the
> front door, visiting home health care professionals, the whole nine
> yards. Now I'm trying to find a dependable night-sitter service we can
> afford so I can get some sleep.

Sleep, something that seems harder and harder to come by as the years 
accumulate.  I will I suppose need that 'sitter' at some point, but so far 
she is mobile at least half the time.  We even made it to Long Johns for 
dinner last night.  A slight improvement.  And she went to a visitation in 
the late afternoon, one of her classmates had passed a couple days ago.

Take care.

> Regards,
> Kent

Cheers, Gene
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