On 7/7/2013 1:51 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 07 July 2013 01:20:43 Jon Elson did opine:
>
>    
>> Gene Heskett wrote:
>>      
>>>    Now I can
>>>
>>> write a peck loop wrapping up the G33.1, that can drive a 10-32 tap
>>> half an inch into a prepared hole, backing out to clear chips, and do
>>> it in perhaps 45 to 60 seconds.  Each direction change, at 300 revs,
>>> takes a bit less than 3 seconds for the stop, and accelerate to the
>>> same speed in the other direction.  Listening to the z stepper growl
>>> seems to say that it is totally and absolutely locked.  I have killed
>>> the motor power in mid cycle, and rolled the spindle by hand, with
>>> the z drive following it perfectly, as I expected. ;-)
>>>        
>> I do 4-40 holes with a combined drill-tap in about 12 seconds at 1000
>> RPM. it takes most of the time doing the drill plunge, then the tapping
>> only takes a
>> couple of seconds.  I do 10-32 in pre-drilled holes in about 4 seconds
>> at 660 RPM.  Those are single-pass tapping cycles in aluminum.
>>
>> Jon
>>      
> Chuckle, yes, and I can imagine the cost of the tap to do that.  I am using
> what I can get at Tractor Supply, with gullets that wouldn't pretend to
> have enough room to carry the chip load from a hole that was likely the
> nearest fractional 1/64th inch size smaller.  But you would be amazed at
> what a 3/32" diameter diamond coated bit, laid in the groove, turning slow
> enough to not ablate the diamond, used to deepen the gullets by .005" can
> do for the performance of such a tap.  I've also found the usual Ace Hdwe
> Hansen tap breaks like cast iron today, where 50 years ago it was close to
> the best you could buy.
>
> So today I look for the MIBRO brand, they are not only sharper, but can
> take 2 to 3x the torque a Hansen tap breaks at.  Sure, they aren't a $30
> tap from Henly, but they do a fine job for a 7 dollar bill including the
> right size tap drill.  My problem is keeping the tap and the drill together
> after removal from the blisterpack card.  I should make me some box covers
> for brass storage plates, with the plate having 2 holes drilled in it with
> each tap drill, and one of then tapped for the tap so they are always
> together.  I'll probably do that right after I find my missing round tuit.
> :)
>
> The best small drill and tap storage ever was the little plastic&
> cardboard sleeve they shipped rifle ammo primers in 50 years ago.  I still
> have one of those with all my 6-48, 8-40&  10-32 taps&  drills (some of
> those are carbide) stored in it.
>
> Cheers, Gene
>    
Gene,

Do you have a Menards near you?   The tap/drill pairs that they sell 
hold up well.  I think they are $5.00 for an 8-32 set.
I use them to drill and tap holes in steel control panel backplanes and 
they do ok.   I chuck the taps in a cordless drill and go to it with a 
touch of lube
I break very few of them.   I've used nice spiral point taps but they 
last about the same.    You are right.. ..Hanson used to be very high 
quality.

Dave

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