Hi all! I hope you were referring to Missouri in the best positive light. As you know, the Missouri ethic of denying everything until it is shown to them, hits them upside the head, and sits down to dinner with them makes for the best compliance engineers.
Frank West Sr. Engineer TUV Rheinland NA Born and raised in Richland, MO. --- [email protected] wrote: > > A corollary to Jim's comments -- > > We were using a "non-traditional" NRTL with > favorable experiences -- rapid > approval process, cost competitive, etc. Then a > particular contract that we > were bidding on specified the "traditional" NRTL. > Our original NRTL was > assisting us with the educational process until the > customer came up with > his own "educational exposure". It seems that our > previous NRTL had not > applied or been approved for the specific standards > (a new business that we > had entered into at that time) required for this > contract. They were more > than willing to learn the process, but bottom line, > they were not approved > by OSHA for that standard at that time. The NRTL > did not volunteer that > information; the customer pulled it out of the NRTL > in one of those "I'm > from Missouri -- show me" challenges. > > So when investigating an alternative NRTL, be sure > they have the correct > approvals (documented) for the standards applicable > to your product. > > Don Umbdenstock > Sensormatic > > > ---------- > > From: > [email protected][SMTP:[email protected]] > > Reply To: [email protected] > > Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 2:07 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: NRTL acceptance > > > > > > Terry, > > > > We have used four agencies through the years, and > still have many products > > with other than our main agency. > > > > Over the past three years, there was one incident > with a NEC inspector > > that > > did not correctly identify the backwards RU of a > very famous NRTL. There > > were a couple of other times where the inspector > was looking for a certain > > mark, and flagged us until we could explain that > we used a different > > agency. > > So generally speaking, there is sometimes an > education process required. > > > > On the positive side, the NRTL involved has always > been very helpful in > > the > > education process. > > > > James Goedderz > > Sensormatic > > > > > ---------- > > > From: Terry Meck[SMTP:[email protected]] > > > Reply To: Terry Meck > > > Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 12:25 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: NRTL acceptance > > > > > > > > > Hi: > > > > > > We have been using an old reliable but very busy > Safety agency to > > > review our products and apply their safety mark. > > > > > > From time to time we are approached by their > competitors, NRTLs, or > > > European soon to be NRTL labs for our business. > > > > > > My question is in this `NRTL enlightened market > are there still > > > inspectors out there that will still require > education about the NRTL > > > status and the acceptability of an NRTL lab > Listing vs the old familiar > > > ones? > > > > > > As you all know time to market is critical and 3 > to 6 months is too > > > long to wait. We will need to look for other > solutions and I am trying > > > to review the whole range of issues involved in > changing the primary > > > NRTL. > > > > > > I hope this is not too commercial a question! > If you feel it is please > > > reply to me directly. > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Terry J. Meck > > > Senior Compliance/Test Engineer > > > Phone:215-721-5280 > > > Fax:215-721-5551 hard copy; > > > Fax PC: 215.799.1650 To my desk PC > > > [email protected] > > > Accu-Sort Systems Inc. > > > 511 School House Rd. > > > Telford, PA 18969-1196 USA > > > > > > > > > --------- > > > This message is coming from the emc-pstc > discussion list. > > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to > [email protected] > > > with the single line: "unsubscribe emc-pstc" > (without the > > > quotes). 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