Chris, I know very little of the category of your product, "light industrial test and measurement equipment". But I have been through numerous product GOST-R certifications. My clients included Compaq, Applied Materials, HP, etc. I am afraid that few things have changed since I got out of this business.
Your reps in Moscow should have worked with neither GOSSTANDART nor the Ministry of Communications. All should be done through Certification Centers accredited/appointed by GOSSTANDART, National Administration for Standardization, according to product category (and HB Tariff Code). The Telecom certificates can be obtained from Telecom Certification Centers (about 30 of them) appointed by the Ministry of Communications, GOSSVIAZ. Selective appointments, again, are based on category of equipment (terminal or wireless). For test and measurement equipment, there are metrological aspects which are, typically, handled by Metrology Centers (such as Mendeleev Institute in St. Petersburg). Russians are very smart and shrewd negotiators who have learned capitalistic principles of making profit, especially, when they realize that customers are not aware of available options. Russians are much better familiar with US certification system than we are familiar with GOST-R or any other Russian certification procedures. GOOD LUCK, Vitaly Gorodetsky > -----Original Message----- > From: Maxwell, Chris [SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 12:54 PM > To: 'EMC-PSTC Internet Forum' > Subject: Russian Certification of Products > > > Our sales people in Russia have started the process of "Certifying" our > equipment to sell in Russia. The two agencies that they are working with > are "Gosstandart" and the "Ministry of Communication". > > According to them, the certification will consist of an inspection of all > of > our existing Compliance Documentation including ISO-9000 certification, > EMC > Test Data (for the products of interest), Safety Test Data (for the > products > of interest), Environmental Test Data including heat, frost, moisture, > vibration, and blow (what is that?) along with other inspections of our > calibration equipment and methods. We are also being asked to pay for a > trip to the US for 3 people from the Ministry of Communication and > Gosstandart (6 people total) for 7 days each. > > The total is a staggering $44,000 (either cash or wire transfer). Note > that all of the actions being performed for this are "inspections" of > existing documentation, not actual testing. So in the end, they will > decide to certify our products based upon existing documentation, > testing... > I have never experienced this before. It appears to be a great deal of > expense for not much substance. Is this typical? Has anybody else out > there certified products with these agencies? > > By the way, we typically classify our product as "light industrial test > and > measurement equipment" and already have solid testing and documentation to > to EN 61326-1 (EMC), EN 61010-1 (Safety) and EN 60825-1 (Laser Safety). > Does this give us any kind of out? > > Chris Maxwell, Design Engineer > GN Nettest Optical Division > 109 N. Genesee St. > Utica, NY 13502 > PH: 315-797-4449 > FAX: 315-797-8024 > EMAIL: [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > [email protected] > with the single line: > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Jim Bacher: [email protected] > Michael Garretson: [email protected] > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Richard Nute: [email protected] > ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: [email protected] with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: [email protected] Michael Garretson: [email protected] For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: [email protected]
