Rich,

For ITE, the file number may be used in lieu of control number. I will be
glad to provide a memo from UL Labels Department regarding this issue.



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-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Nute [mailto:ri...@sdd.hp.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:09 AM
To: rpick...@hypercom.com
Cc: chris.maxw...@nettest.com; emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Re: UL - marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate.






Hi Ron:


>   1. UL in a circle (the famous UL Listing mark symbol),
>   2. The word "LISTED" in capital letters,
>   3. The assigned control number*, and
>   4. Product identity (e.g., NWGQ, I.T.E., etc.)
>   
>   * The assigned control number is a designation that UL assigns to a
manufacturer, or manufacuring
>   location (I have also seen UL file numbers used here, although I'm not
sure that UL objects to
>   that).

The file number cannot replace the control number.
The control number is always required.

The file number can replace the manufacturer's name,
or can be used in addition to the manufacturer's
name.  

>   So, given the above and IMHO, I would say that just a generic UL Listing
mark would neither be
>   acceptable nor authorized by UL. However, I recommend contacting UL for
their official position on
>   the use of their Listing mark.

The generic UL mark (the UL in a circle -- without the
other three items) may be used in advertising or on 
the product carton.  I believe UL has some guidelines 
for this use.


Best regards,
Rich




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