Peter, The complete title for UL783 is "Battery Operated Flashlights and Lanterns for use in hazardous (classified) locations. It's why I understand it has to be used for intrinsic purposes. Furthermore, it seems that UL781 would be more applicable to our product.
Regarding the safety for my lighting, I don't see any other UL applicable standards. Do you (or somebody here) believe that it exists an other applicabl safety standard ? Once more, thanks for you cooperation. Regards, Pierre >Messsage du 22/11/2002 10:34 >De : Peter Merguerian <[email protected]> >A : 'Pierre SELVA' <[email protected]>, ><[email protected]>, <[email protected]> >Copie à : >Objet : RE: EMC and safety for Head Lamp > > Pierre, > > UL783 (Battery Operated Flashlights and Lanterns) is not the standard for > intinsic safety. It is the standard used if your head lamp is used in > non-hazradous environments. For intrinsic safety, you must use UL913 > (standard for intrinsicaly safe equipment). > > > Best Regards > > > This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential information. If > you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose, use, disseminate, > distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment in any way. If you > received this e-mail message in error, please return by forwarding the > message and its attachments to the sender. > > > > > > > PETER S. MERGUERIAN > Technical Director > I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. > 26 Hacharoshet St., POB 211 > Or Yehuda 60251, Israel > Tel: + 972-(0)3-5339022 Fax: + 972-(0)3-5339019 > Mobile: + 972-(0)54-838175 > http://www.itl.co.il > http://www.i-spec.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pierre SELVA [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:32 AM > To: [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected] > Subject: RE: EMC and safety for Head Lamp > > > Hi Gary and Peter, > > When the little switch mode power supply is used, frequencies generated and > used inside the product are less than 9KHz. > Reading your messages, I understand that no EMC or safety standards applied > to the basic products. > Only the product with switch mode power supply could be tested against EMC > standard, if any applied. I understand Gary will check this point. > > Furthermore, when intrinsic safety is wanted, I have to comply with UL 783 > safety standard. Am I right ? > > I thank you a lot for your cooperation, > Best regards, > Pierre Selva > > > > >Messsage du 21/11/2002 20:22 > >De : Gary McInturff <[email protected]> > >A : Peter Merguerian <[email protected]>, Pierre SELVA > <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > >Copie à : > >Objet : RE: EMC and safety for Head Lamp > > > > > > Seems like they can have a switch mode supply of some sorts. I would > look under digital devices in the FCC regs to see if they are exempted. If > its battery powered there wouldn't be any conducted mode tests, but switch > mode supplies can be a nasty little beast for radiation. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Peter Merguerian [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 7:31 AM > > To: 'Pierre SELVA'; [email protected] > > Subject: RE: EMC and safety for Head Lamp > > > > > > > > For safety, try UL783 (Battery Operated Flashlights and Lanterns). > > > > I am quiet sure there are no emc requirements for such a device. Someone > > else in the forum may volunteer. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential information. If > > you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose, use, > disseminate, > > distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment in any way. If > you > > received this e-mail message in error, please return by forwarding the > > message and its attachments to the sender. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PETER S. MERGUERIAN > > Technical Director > > I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. > > 26 Hacharoshet St., POB 211 > > Or Yehuda 60251, Israel > > Tel: + 972-(0)3-5339022 Fax: + 972-(0)3-5339019 > > Mobile: + 972-(0)54-838175 > > http://www.itl.co.il > > http://www.i-spec.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pierre SELVA [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:41 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: EMC and safety for Head Lamp > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > I would like to know what are the applicable requirements for a head lamp > > (frontal lamp) in the North America, regarding EMC and Safety matters, > > knowing that : > > > > - The lamp is used for non professional matters, > > - The lamp is powered by batteries (lithium AA size), with or without a > > little regulation or switching mode. > > - The light is provided by LED or little lamps. > > - The complete product is in contact with body (head !) > > - The product is made of plastic. > > > > Do you know is there is some requirements regarding intrinsic safety (Ex) > > for this kind of product ? > > > > Thanks a lot for your comments, > > Best regards, > > > > Pierre Selva > > eLABs > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > > Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > > > Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ > > > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > > [email protected] > > with the single line: > > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > > Ron Pickard: [email protected] > > Dave Heald: [email protected] > > > > For policy questions, send mail to: > > Richard Nute: [email protected] > > Jim Bacher: [email protected] > > > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > > http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ > > Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list" > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > > Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > > > Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ > > > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > > [email protected] > > with the single line: > > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > > Ron Pickard: [email protected] > > Dave Heald: [email protected] > > > > For policy questions, send mail to: > > Richard Nute: [email protected] > > Jim Bacher: [email protected] > > > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > > http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ > > Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list" > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > > Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > > > Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ > > > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > > [email protected] > > with the single line: > > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > > Ron Pickard: [email protected] > > Dave Heald: [email protected] > > > > For policy questions, send mail to: > > Richard Nute: [email protected] > > Jim Bacher: [email protected] > > > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > > http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ > > Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list" > > > ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. 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