To All, For clarification:
The markings on the power supply are: (also as per UL file) Date code model number electrical ratings "Class 2 transformer" The additional markings are: "CAUTION", "Risk of electric shock" and "Dry location use only" and "Do not expose to liquid, vapor, or rain" As I said before: only in english, not in french, but approved for: - UL1310, 4th ed. 1994 , including revisions through April 4th, 2000 and - CAN CSA C22.2. No. 223 by UL and having the C UL US logo. As I understand from some people: I am allowed to import my product with this power supply in the US but not in Canada. Is this interpretation still correct? If YES, I'm probably one of the many mftr's in this nice situation. Regards, Kris -----Original Message----- From: Constantin Bolintineanu [mailto:cbolintine...@dsc.com] Sent: donderdag 1 augustus 2002 21:09 To: 'Rich Nute'; carpenti...@thmulti.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Marking Languages for Canada Dear Colleagues, As Mat Aschenberg specified clearly , it is a requirement of the applicable Standard; (in this situation it is CAN CSA C22.2. No. 223-M91). It specifies under the Clause 5, MARKING , item 5. 2 as follows: "the following WARNINGS or equivalent, when applicable,, shall appear on the power supply a, b, c...each warning shall appear in English and French (WARNING followed by the proposed text in English and AVERTISSEMENT ...followed by the proposed text in French). The fact that Rich did not see the WARNINGS, I assume that is due to the fact that on those PS which he used, the WARNINGS were Not Applicable. I hope it helps. I understood that Kris observed on the PS a WARNING in English ONLY, which does not fulfil all of the applicable requirements of the used Standard. Respectfully yours, Constantin Constantin Bolintineanu P.Eng. DIGITAL SECURITY CONTROLS LTD. 3301 LANGSTAFF Road, L4K 4L2 CONCORD, ONTARIO, CANADA e-mail: cbolintine...@dsc.com Telephone: 905 760 3000 ext 2568 Fax: 905 760 3020 -----Original Message----- From: Rich Nute [mailto:ri...@sdd.hp.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:36 AM To: carpenti...@thmulti.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Marking Languages for Canada Hi Kris: > A product from manufacturer X is delivered with a (direct plug-in) power > supply from mftr Y to customers in Canada. > Regarding the power supply, it is UL approved + UL listed and has the UL > marking with C and US. > The warning marking on the power supply is only in english. > Question: > Is it required that the marking is also in french (en francais) when the > product is sold in Canada? > If YES, is there any reason why the marking is not in both languages if > there is an approval for US+Canada? Your question generates a number of questions: 1) Is the warning marking required by the applicable standard, or did the manufacturer voluntarily apply the warning? (We, too, use UL/cUL direct-plug-in power supplies. To my recollection, there are no warnings on our power supplies. So, I question whether or not the warning is required by the standard.) 2) Is the warning marking required by the US standard? If yes, then the warning is for the US and not for Canada. 3) Is the warning marking required by the Canadian standard? If yes, then does the standard require the warning marking to be in French? In my experience with UL, UL requires compliance to the standard. If the standard does not require a specific language, then UL does not require a specific language. If language is a requirement of a national law (and not a standard), then compliance to that law applies to the manufacturer, not to UL. UL does not require compliance to national laws of countries other than the USA. However, when UL is aware of a law that might specify requirements in addition to those in the standard, UL will call this to the attention of the manufacturer, usually by letter. This is a very common UL practice, especially when UL issues a CB Report. The cover letter to the CB Report will often mention that the language of the instruction manual, for example, was not evaluated. The cover letter will state something to the effect that certain countries may require the language of the manual to be the local langauge. (To my knowledge, IEC standards do not specify language except in the very broadest terms, e.g., the language of a warning must be in a language acceptable to country authorities.) Best regards, Rich ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. 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