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There have been recent magazine articles about a magnetic pulse device that appears to cure migraines. Does this mean we'll see headlines like "Bank Robbers Caught in High-Speed Car Chase. Fifty Bystanders Cured!" Ah, brave new world... Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 1:11 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected] > Subject: RE: EM Disruption of Automobile Electronics > > > http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium > http://www.emc2004.org/ > -------------------------------------------------- > > My coworker wonders what it would do to pedestrians with pacemakers. As > for hurting the standard issue person? If you can't see it, it can't > hurt you, and it? How about a big tazer to zap the car? Or, ionize the > air with a laser and then transfer charge to the car though that. The > car will arc over to ground, making it's own EMC pulse and possibly > stopping it. > > Dave Cuthbert > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 10:44 AM > To: drcuthbert > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected] > Subject: RE: EM Disruption of Automobile Electronics > > > > I agree with Dave's analysis below, considering the fact that the US > Automotive Specs call for Immunity testing in the 100-200 V/M range (one > small range in the 1-1.5GHz requires 600V/M) at 1 meter and failures > occur > daily I wouldn't doubt that a powerful device like this could stop a > vehicle. > > Amazing how much power EMC can really have over the world today. > > My question though is what if other vehicles are in the path of the EM > Field? I wonder how much of a clear shot is required for accuracy? > > Also, the effects on the vehicle firing the EM Field and all the people > who > may also be induced in it? Any studies done to prove or disprove that > the > EM Field is harmful? In my experience and study a field with as little > power as 100V/M can have serious affects on human beings..... > > Just my two cents. > > > Rob Kado > EMC Engineer > VWS - Auburn Hills, USA > Tel: 248-340-3828 / Fax: 248-340-3316 > Internal Location 3M2 > > > > > [email protected] > > Sent by: To: > <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > [email protected] cc: > > ee.org Subject: RE: > EM Disruption of Automobile Electronics > > > 07/13/2004 12:08 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ > -------------------------------------------------- > Kim, > > cool device. An EMP device like this can generate a 1-2 gW pulse, or so > I > have read. Given 50 kV across a dipole you will get 35 megawatts. > Directed > with a gain of 10 dBi this will give 2000 V/m at 50 meters. Is this > enough > to stop automobile electronics? > > Dave Cuthbert > Micron Technology > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Youngman > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 10:03 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: EM Disruption of Automobile Electronics > > http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ > -------------------------------------------------- > > > Most Esteemed EMC Gurus, > > > First post from a long-time suscriber. Subject is automotive EMC and > the > intentional disruption of microprocessors in automobiles to disable > vehicles, presumably during chases. In an article in the Guardian (UK > newspaper), Dr. Giri describes his newly invented device; the article is > at > http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,2763,1259138,00.html This was > also reported on National Public Radio ( > http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=3327049) (watch for split > URLs). > > > Knowing the lengths that the automotive EMC community goes to to prevent > this exact effect, and having been involved in similar "pursuits" of my > own, I have my doubts, but am interested in the opinions of others. Has > Dr. Giri found a back-door path into automotive microprocessors? > > > Thanks, > > > Jim > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society > emc-pstc > discussion list. > > > IEEE PSES Main Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ > > > To post a message send your e-mail to [email protected] > > > Instructions for use of the list server: > > > http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html > > > List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > > > Ron Pickard: [email protected] Dave Heald: [email protected] > > > For policy questions, send mail to: > > > Richard Nute: [email protected] Jim Bacher: [email protected] > > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > > > http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc > > > ------------------------------------------- > > > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society > emc-pstc > discussion list. > > > IEEE PSES Main Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ > > > To post a message send your e-mail to [email protected] > > > Instructions for use of the list server: > > > http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html > > > List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > > > Ron Pickard: [email protected] Dave Heald: [email protected] > > > For policy questions, send mail to: > > > Richard Nute: [email protected] Jim Bacher: [email protected] > > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > > > http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc > > > > > > > "This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the intended > recipient(s). > The information contained therein may be confidential or privileged, and > its disclosure or reproduction is strictly prohibited. > If you are not the intended recipient, please return it immediately to > its > sender at the above address and destroy it." > > ------------------------------------------- > > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society > emc-pstc discussion list. > > IEEE PSES Main Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ > > To post a message send your e-mail to [email protected] > > Instructions for use of the list server: > > http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html > > List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > > Ron Pickard: [email protected] > Dave Heald: [email protected] > > For policy questions, send mail to: > > Richard Nute: [email protected] > Jim Bacher: [email protected] > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > > http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.703 / Virus Database: 459 - Release Date: 6/10/2004 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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