Thanks Dave, I agree with you in principal but it always helps to get nonsafety types to understand the risks if you can show them actual cases where noncompliance hurt the bottom line. Safety is actually easier to defend as nobody likes to think about burning someone house down or presenting a shock hazard while EMC is more "mystical" as you cannot usually see the effects except on a piece of test equipment. It seems as though there is very little enforcement in this area so I will have to appeal to the desire to do what is right................ I appreciate the responses I did receive ........ regards, John
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 12:54 PM To: Tyra, John; [email protected] Subject: RE: Request for info on CE Mark penalties John, the consideration of penalties is a form of consequentialist ethics that focuses on "us". A higher form (in my opinion) is to focus on the consequences to "the other." In this case, the other is society. As you know, the EMC limits are not arbitrary; they are based on the interference potential to EM communications. So one can consider that shipping a product that exceeds the EMC limits could potentially harm society. One can take this one step further and consider that a product that is under the EMC limits can still potentially harm society, but that it is not as harmful as a product that exceeds the EMC limits. In this case we can site rule based ethics by proclaiming that we meet the EMC rules and therefore we have done all that we are required to do. These two conflicting ethical positions could make for a long and interesting discussion. Dave Cuthbert Micron Technology _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tyra, John Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 7:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Request for info on CE Mark penalties Hello everyone, Does anyone have any good articles or website examples of the penalties for non- conformance for the CE Mark. I especially need examples for EMC violations to use to stress the seriousness and impact to business for some non regulatory people here who need some convincing. Thanks in advance for your help John Tyra Manager Product Safety Bose Corporation The Mountain, MS-450 Framingham, MA 01701-9168 Phone: 508-766-1502 Fax: 508-766-1145 ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to [email protected] Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas [email protected] Mike Cantwell [email protected] For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: [email protected] Jim Bacher: [email protected] All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to [email protected] Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas [email protected] Mike Cantwell [email protected] For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: [email protected] Jim Bacher: [email protected] All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
