The regulations I mentioned only apply to Lithium/ Ion batteries.

 

Lithium Ion batteries have very high energy density for a small volume so a 
very small cell can have a greater than 400Wh/L energy density. We have a 
battery pack for one of our products where the Lithium cell has an energy 
density above the limit so we had to comply. All the examples you gave we 
chemistries other Lithium so I think you would be surprised how much energy is 
contained in a little lithium/ Ion battery.

 

 

 

From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 3:35 PM
To: Tyra, John; Scott Xe; [email protected]
Subject: RE: How to determine if battery-operated product is safe or not

 

If I  understand well, then almost

no batteries/cells do qualify to this 400 Wh/L requirement:

 

Take a lead acid car battery:

12V 85 Ah  Size 40 x 20 x 20 cm  approx

12 x 85 = 1020 / 12  = 63 WH/L < 100 WH/L

 

I have a LifePo4 Battery on my E-bike: 

48 V 20 AH  Size appox 25 x 20 x 20 cm 

48 x 20 = 960 / 10 = 96 WH/L  < 100 WH/l

 

An NiMh AA-cel  1.2V 2.7 Ah  size 1.2 O x 5 cm 

1.2 x 2.7 = 3.24 / 0.188 = 17 WH/L

 

Lion pack 3.6V 6.6 Ah  3 x AA size

 

3.6 x 6.6 = 23.76 

23.76 / (3 x 0.188) = 42 WH/L

 

 

Did I understand something wrong ???

 

 

Gert Gremmen

Ce-test, qualified testing bv

 

 


Van: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Namens Tyra, John
Verzonden: vrijdag 10 juli 2009 20:17
Aan: 'Scott Xe'; [email protected]
Onderwerp: RE: How to determine if battery-operated product is safe or not

 

Hello Scott,

 

Here are the Energy Density equations sent to me by METI in Japan 

 

1. We recommend to make sure the energy density by obtaining the design from 
the battery manufacture because it should be considered necessarily at the 
design phase by them. Please refer to the following formula and it is subjected 
to the regulation if volume energy density is over 400Wh/L.

 

Volume Energy Density = ( Rated Capacity * Rated Voltage ) / Outside Size

 

Rated Capacity: The battery capacity C5Ah (ampere-hour) specified by the 
battery manufacture.

The battery capacity C5Ah means it can supply for five hours when the battery 
is charged, stored and discharged under the condition of JIS C8711

(2006)7.2.1. Please refer to "JIS C8711(2006) 3.5". The discharge stop voltage 
is specified by the battery manufacture.

Rated Voltage: The appropriate voltage. It is used for specifying or 
identifying the voltage of a unit battery.

Generally it is five-hour discharge rate and the average discharge voltage when 
measuring the rated capacity Outside Size: the outside size for a unit cell. 
Please refer to the following website in detail. Unfortunately it is Japanese 
only.

http://www.meti.go.jp/policy/consumer/seian/denan/kaishaku/haninokaishaku.pdf

 

2. The battery pack which is more than 400Wh/l per one single cell is subjected 
to Electrical Appliance and Material Safety Act and it needs to be put the 
circle PSE mark. With in B to B contract it is enough to label the PSE mark 
either before import or after import. The importers in Japan are responsible to 
it.

 

Hope this helps,

 

 

John Tyra

Manager Product Safety Group

Bose Corporation

The Mountain, MS-450

Framingham, MA 01701-9168

phone: 508-766-1502

fax: 508-766-1145

 

 

 

 



From: Scott Xe [mailto:[email protected]] 

Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 12:43 PM

To: Tyra, John; [email protected]

Subject: RE: How to determine if battery-operated product is safe or not

 

Hi John,

 

Thanks for your useful information.

 

The battery is of soldered connection type lithium 3.7 V 180 mAh which is a

low power so we need to make a sensible judgement if it really needs to do

any LVD test.  Is there any formula to convert the given spec to power

density?

 

Thanks,

 

Scott

 



From: Tyra, John [mailto:[email protected]] 

Sent: 2009年7月10日 1:05

To: 'Scott Xe'; [email protected]

Subject: RE: How to determine if battery-operated product is safe or not

 

Hello Scott,

 

You did not mention the type of battery you are using but I am guessing it

is Lithium Ion??

 

In this case I don't think there really is any easy way to guarantee safety

of a rechargeable Lithium Ion battery pack without extensive testing to

current International Standards. Just an FYI the International Regulatory

bodies are in the process of revising the current standards to try to make

them more stringent due to concerns related to recent field issues.

 

In addition to the UL standards you mentioned I would look at the IEC/EN

requirements such as IEC/EN62133. I don't believe there is a energy limit in

the UL or IEC/EN standards for required compliance.

 

Japan (implemented in November 20, 2008) and Korea (effective January 1,

2010) have also passed new laws regulating Lithium Batteries where any

battery which has an energy density greater than 400W/L must meet specific

construction and test requirements. Batteries below this energy density

level are exempt. Korean requirements are similar to Japan's

 

Here are the links for the Japan regs

 

http://www.meti.go.jp/policy/consumer/seian/denan/lithium/080703/law.pdf

http://www.meti.go.jp/policy/consumer/seian/denan/lithium/080703/cabinet_ord

er.pdf

http://www.meti.go.jp/policy/consumer/seian/denan/lithium/080703/ministerial

_ordinance.pdf

http://www.meti.go.jp/policy/consumer/seian/denan/lithium/080703/technical_r

equirements.pdf

 

There are also International shipping regulations which have energy level

limits and testing requirements. The manufacturer of the cell should be able

to provide you with an appropriate test report. To satisfy the testing

requirements for the shipping regs.

 

http://www.iata.org/nr/rdonlyres/480246b4-c9a3-4e19-aa94-38ae5472ddf4/0/guid

ancedocumentonthetransportoflibatt_2009v21.pdf

 

Hope this helps....

 

Regards,

 

 

John Tyra

Manager Product Safety Group

Bose Corporation

The Mountain, MS-450

Framingham, MA 01701-9168

phone: 508-766-1502

fax: 508-766-1145

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Xe

Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:38 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: How to determine if battery-operated product is safe or not

 

We have an USB rechargeable battery-operated video clip/MP3 player.  As

battery-operated products do not fall into LVD directive, what can we apply

the basis to determine the product safe or not?  Looking at historical

safety hazard reports on the market, there was not much any recall on this

type of products except the explosion of rechargeable battery pack.

However, the possible explosion of rechargeable battery pack cannot be

picked up by LVD directive or dedicated UL1642/2054 battery cell/pack

standards.  Otherwise, Sony did not need to recall millions of battery packs

and the said standards are not required the review.  What is potential

hazard do we need to look at this type of products? As the safety hazard is

tied with power energy, is there any reference that there is no safety

concern if the power energy is below certain level?

 

Thanks,

 

Scott

 

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