Hi

It is a little strange that this problem still exist, the PC manufacturers
have had many years to learn about EMC matters. 

I have good experiences with Dell computers, but we have seen good IBM's too
here at our lab. I haven't got any number/names but a labtop with as few
I/O's and wireless as possible would be at good starting point.

We have seen another problem when testing for CISPR 22 conducted on
teleports, where a laser printer attached to the EUT was 20 dB over limit.
Putting any other Ethernet device on the EUT port reduced the emission by 15
dB or more.

We are satisfied if our customers can make a setup which pass the limit with
a CE/FCC marked peripheral device and just note in the report what was
attached the EUT. I don't see this as a world-wide problem to pass new
products with old products attached, I think the problem is that there are a
lot of non-compliance products out there.

Best regards,


Mr. Kim Boll Jensen
Bolls Rådgivning
Ved Gadekæret 11F
DK-3660 Stenløse

Phone: +45 48 18 35 66

[email protected]
www.bolls.dk




Fra: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne af John Woodgate
Sendt: 14. april 2009 19:34
Til: [email protected]
Emne: Re: "Quiet" Laptop

In message 
<[email protected]>, dated 
Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Elliott Mac-FME001 <[email protected]> writes:

>I have been asked by an associate if I can get a recommendation on a 
>model of laptop that would be sufficient for FCC Part 15 DoC tests of 
>peripherals that has a reputation for being "quiet".

I note that this is for FCC purposes, but fundamentally, it's not an 
acceptable situation world-wide. Using products that are no longer in 
production is just not realistic. If it were, someone would use a 
stone-age product with a 4 MHz clock! Sooner or later, some spectrum 
management authority is going to object, and at that point every DoC 
becomes at least suspect, if not actually invalid.

There is obviously an opportunity here for a niche manufacturer to 
propose to CISPR a 'standard portable computer' with low but reasonable 
emissions, for testing peripherals. It need not be costly on EMC 
test-gear scales, even allowing for the small volume.
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Things can always get better. But that's not the only option.
John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK

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