Other Brian,

 

In the US and Canada, branch circuits and other circuits (e.g. services) are
rated for the sum of the continuous loads plus 125 percent of the
non-continuous loads.  

 

This is stated, for instance, in NEC 210.19 for minimum ampacity of branch
circuit conductor.  "Continuous Load" is in the definitions (Art. 100) as:

 

Continuous Load. A load where the maximum current is expected to continue
for 3 hours or more.

 

Likewise, in the Canadian Electrical Code, Part I, Rule 8-104, maximum
circuit loading is 80% of the rating of the circuit where a fused switch or
circuit breaker is marked for continuous operation at 80% of the ampere
rating of its overcurrent devices (or is unmarked per Appendix B).  A
continuous load is defined in that same rule as:

 

(3) The calculated load in a consumer's service, feeder, or branch circuit
shall be considered a continuous load unless it can be shown that in normal
operation it will not persist for

(a) a total of more than 1 h in any two-hour period if the load does not
exceed 225 A; or

(b) a total of more than 3 h in any six-hour period if the load exceeds 225
A.

 

Except for the definitions of continuous loads, the requirements are
essentially the same in the US and Canada (though they are stated as
reciprocals in one country versus the other).

 

An easy example to demonstrate continuous and non-continuous loads would be
to compare a standard electric heater to a blow dryer.  The standard
electrical heater plugs into a 120V ac, 15 A receptacle, and is considered a
continuous load.  It is never rated more than 1500W.  Roughly this equates
to 12 A current at 120 V ac, or 80% of the 15 A nominal circuit rating (12.5
actually, but you are normally allowed to exceed the current rating by no
more than 10%).  Blow dryers that plug into 120 V ac, 15 A outlets, on the
other hand, are often rated for up to 1800 W. which equates to a current of
15 A.  Why is this possible?  Because a blow dryer's use is short-duty or
non-continuous, and will not be used for more than 3 hours in the US or for
more than 1 hour in a 2 hour period in Canada.

 

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:45 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Circuit breakers in Europe

 

Since this topic has been brought up, I'm hoping you experts could clarify
the 80% rule for me for North America (don't forget Canada).

 

I was given the impression that the 80% rule (as we call it) applies to the
maximum continuous current of the plug rating regardless of whether there is
one receptacle or multiple receptacles on that circuit. A product can draw
100% the current rating of the plug for periods of time but not more than
80% average current or continuous current.

 

The reason for the rule is to avoid overheating in the plug/receptacle
connection.

 

Is this right or wrong?

 

So say I have a 30 amp plug on my product and it is wired into a dedicated
receptacle and circuit. My product can be rated and draw up to 30 amps but
it cannot draw more than 24 amps continuous. Correct?

 

If the product is wired direct without the plug/receptacle it can draw up to
100% of the circuit rating continuously. Correct?

 

Please confirm or clarify.

 

We gathered this information from CSA who inspects our products in Canada
and if we rate a product over 80% of the plug rating they require we also
provide an average current and/or continuous current rating for that
product.

 

Thank you.

 

The Other Brian

 

-----Original Message-----

From:  <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Pete Perkins

Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 6:07 PM

To:  <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]

Subject: RE: [PSES] Circuit breakers in Europe

 

PSNet,

 

        One issue that I'm not sure has been reflected in this thread is
that the NA 80% restriction for utilization circuits is that it is assumed
that there will be a number of duplex plugs wired into each circuit, as
allowed by the NA code.  Therefore, any single product may not use the
entire rated current from the circuit (20A, for instance) but is limited
(80% = 16A) so that other products may be plugged into the same circuit with
out overloading that circuit.

 

        If a product uses the full, rated current from a circuit breaker
then that product must be wired to a 'dedicated ccircuit' meaning that an
electrician must be called to wire in a circuit with only one outlet (not a
duplex outlet) on that breaker. (After getting the required permit, it might
cost as much to wire a new circuit - if it is even possible - as many
commercial electronic products cost.)  It's pretty clear that customers do
not want to hire an electrician to wire a new circuit for a new product thus
the pressure to meet the 80% limit with the products.

 

        Industrial customers deal with rewiring to code better than
commercial or household folks do.

 

        Been there, done that.

 

:>)     br,     Pete

 

Peter E Perkins, PE

 

Principal Product Safety Engineer

 

PO Box 23427

 

Tigard, ORe  97281-3427

 

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